A Framework surprise

Is that astounding?
The first thing that came to mind when I got the first email was more: Oh yes, EndeavoursOS and all the users who play with Archlinux, people who are interested in all sorts of electronic handicrafts, 3D printing .. Hardware in general, and also highend-hardware, that goes perfectly with Framework.

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This is great news. Unfortunately I don’t see this hardware here only online. Maybe they can send me a desktop to try out? :wink:

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Although I’m not at all a fan of framework’s new direction (they had ONE job, man!)… I stlil think this is super cool.

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Sure, that’s one of the assumptions that came to my mind as well. But, having done a number of surveys during my working career, I have learned that survey results are very strongly influenced by external factors (how you select your target group, how you phrase your questions, the number of people who filled in the survey etc) which will ā€˜colour’ the results.
So, perhaps i should have phrased my question differently: I’m interested in how they did their surveys.
Once you know how a survey is done, you can try to interpret the results.

Still: it’s great that the team were given this nice surprise!

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this one ,

It would be interesting to check if the battery charge limit (presumably to be setup in the BIOS) does work fine

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You might also test how easy and how smoothly a hardware upgrade or change can be done, as that is one of their USP’s.

Congrats Team! :+1:

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Which video?

I would love to see a review, particularly what works and what doesn’t. I have right now a lenovo and the linux support is horrible.

Do the hardware features(battery conservation, sleep, fingerprint(if it has a reader), wifi, fn keys after sleep) work, if not are there workarounds?
Can you update the firmwares without windows?

I’m looking at investing in some framework hardware, it’s a bit expensive, but it has a potential to be useable for ~10 years. Unlike the cheaper stuff I usually buy.

better for understand : see video

for support under archlinux

and section for update UEFI with fwupd

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That’s really nice with so many options. I really hope they send me one. :laughing:

I have one of their Framework 16 Laptops and I am running EOS on it. The install was super easy, I went with KDE Plasma on a BTRFS partition. Wifi worked out of the box, as did my USB stick to install everything.

I have used it to game on a few times while traveling, I played PoE2 and Factorio mostly. I don’t use it a ton, it’s not my daily driver. The only thing I could not get working was setting up BTRFS in Raid mode with my second SSD. The moment I did that its like the OS path was changed and Grub could never find it. I was not able to recover the install after that. I use the exact same setup on my daily driver PC with 4 SSDs so I know it works. I just was never able to get it to work on the Framework laptop. I suspect it is due to the second NVME slot being configured or interfaced differently. Maybe its run through a USB C interface and not a PCI interface? Either way, that was my only issue and it is one I can live without having.

The modularity is nice. I got a setup with a 10 key numpad so it was nice to be able to move my KB and mouse trackpad around. I shifted everything left so the trackpad is centered under the normal KB and I have blank spacers under the numpad. The expansion cards they have are pretty easy to swap out. Turn off the laptop, flip it over and unlock the card slots. User your fingernails or the included screwdriver to push the old card out, slot in the new one and lock them back up. Turn on your laptop again and it should be working. The Ethernet/RJ45 connector card is a bit bigger than all of the others but I suspect most people won’t even need that thing anyways. I grabbed one since I do networking work as my day job and I know I need them sometimes, better safe than sorry.

I have been impressed with Framework since they came out and I will be purchasing a FW13 laptop for my parents when their Windows 10 one goes out of support. I am also looking into their new desktop to replace another standalone PC I have that mostly holds torrents, is an occasional private server, and sometimes does video transcoding. I would love to run EOS on that thing too if I can, it currently has Windows 11.

I’m looking forward to seeing if this community can make EOS support better for the Framework world!

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Joe’s video. He uploaded a short one on his yt channel.

This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WppRWG4PzA ?

The one showing the Plymouth?

Yeap! :+1:

yes i checked that setting already and it seems to work on charging only to the given value in Bios.
Only that i was setting it to 60% and forget about later.. to wonder why the hell the battery is not loading when plugged.

indeed that’s on the go i had it open up already that’s 1000 times easier compared with everything i opened up over the past years. Every exchangeable part has a QR-Code you can scan with your smartphone and it links directly to the tutorial with a video on how to handle the part.

The best thing is in general it does not need any special driver at all, e v e r y t h i n g was working out of the box, the add-in cards need sto be checked on were to place as of some needs to be in the back slots as of power needed on the AMD version.

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Ah got it this one :wink:

very short video …

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Ohhhhh, YES!!! Watching you from the very close… :joy:

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…unless yo’ve got another more tech-oriented account (in english) that you could share…