Glad to hear your smooth transition! I’m wondering if I even technically still need gdm-prime or not. I needed it when I installed EndeavourOS so that I could in turn install optimus-manager to tell my system to always use the nvidia drivers. But I do wonder if I switched to the regular gdm package if my nvidia settings would stay the same or not. Would be far less complicated if I had an AMD setup I imagine 
1 Like
There’s an easy way to find out. 
1 Like
LOL, looks like I got at least 3 users here curious to see if I can make it or break it 
Edit: I mean worse case scenario, I can just drop into a TTY and do some sort of rollback?
2 Likes
Yes, you can reinstall gdm-prime
Beside if it goes South you can always install KDE.
6 Likes
From what I can gather it looks like the last time gdm-prime was updated like 2 months after the Gnome release. Hmm that’s a bit of a long wait if I’m understanding that right
Time for…Trial by fire!
[scott@endeavourOS ~]$ yay
[sudo] password for scott:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community 5.8 MiB 1108 KiB/s 00:05 [-----------------------] 100%
multilib is up to date
endeavouros is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace xdg-desktop-portal-gtk with extra/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome? [Y/n]
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: insufficient columns available for table display
Packages (56) adwaita-icon-theme-41.0-1 at-spi2-core-2.42.0-1 cheese-41.0-1
epiphany-41.0-1 evince-41.2-1 evolution-3.42.1-1
evolution-data-server-3.42.1-1 folks-0.15.3+6+gdb1de866-1
gcr-3.41.0-1 gjs-2:1.70.0-1 gnome-boxes-41.1-1
gnome-calculator-41.0-1 gnome-calendar-41.1-1
gnome-contacts-41.0-2 gnome-control-center-41.1-1
gnome-desktop-1:41.1-1 gnome-maps-41.1-2 gnome-music-1:41.0-1
gnome-remote-desktop-41.1-1 gnome-settings-daemon-41.0-1
gnome-shell-1:41.1-1 gnome-shell-extensions-41.0-1
gnome-system-monitor-41.0-1 gnome-user-docs-41.0-1
gnupg-2.2.32-1 jre-openjdk-17.0.1.u12-1
jre-openjdk-headless-17.0.1.u12-1 libcheese-41.0-1
libdrm-2.4.108-1 libevdev-1.12.0-1 libnautilus-extension-41.1-1
libseccomp-2.5.3-1 libytnef-1:2.0-2 mutter-41.1-1
nautilus-41.1-1 opencv-4.5.4-6 orca-41.0-1 pinentry-1.2.0-1
power-profiles-daemon-0.10.1-1 qt5-declarative-5.15.2+kde+r39-1
retroarch-1.9.13-1 smbclient-4.15.2-1 sushi-41.0-1
vivaldi-4.3.2439.65-1 webkit2gtk-4.1-2.34.1-2 welcome-3.16.11-1
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome-41.1-1 xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.10.0-2
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.10.0-1 [removal]
xf86-input-libinput-1.2.0-2 xf86-video-fbdev-0.5.0-3
xf86-video-intel-1:2.99.917+916+g31486f40-2
xf86-video-vesa-2.5.0-2 xorg-server-21.1.1-2
xorg-server-common-21.1.1-2 yelp-41.1-1
Total Download Size: 263.45 MiB
Total Installed Size: 1089.21 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 105.11 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
I may or may not be back shortly
3 Likes
Update checks out okay. I guess all I need to do now is restart and hopefully not stare at a blinking black screen!
[scott@endeavourOS ~]$ yay
[sudo] password for scott:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community 5.8 MiB 1108 KiB/s 00:05 [-----------------------] 100%
multilib is up to date
endeavouros is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace xdg-desktop-portal-gtk with extra/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome? [Y/n]
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: insufficient columns available for table display
Packages (56) adwaita-icon-theme-41.0-1 at-spi2-core-2.42.0-1 cheese-41.0-1
epiphany-41.0-1 evince-41.2-1 evolution-3.42.1-1
evolution-data-server-3.42.1-1 folks-0.15.3+6+gdb1de866-1
gcr-3.41.0-1 gjs-2:1.70.0-1 gnome-boxes-41.1-1
gnome-calculator-41.0-1 gnome-calendar-41.1-1
gnome-contacts-41.0-2 gnome-control-center-41.1-1
gnome-desktop-1:41.1-1 gnome-maps-41.1-2 gnome-music-1:41.0-1
gnome-remote-desktop-41.1-1 gnome-settings-daemon-41.0-1
gnome-shell-1:41.1-1 gnome-shell-extensions-41.0-1
gnome-system-monitor-41.0-1 gnome-user-docs-41.0-1
gnupg-2.2.32-1 jre-openjdk-17.0.1.u12-1
jre-openjdk-headless-17.0.1.u12-1 libcheese-41.0-1
libdrm-2.4.108-1 libevdev-1.12.0-1 libnautilus-extension-41.1-1
libseccomp-2.5.3-1 libytnef-1:2.0-2 mutter-41.1-1
nautilus-41.1-1 opencv-4.5.4-6 orca-41.0-1 pinentry-1.2.0-1
power-profiles-daemon-0.10.1-1 qt5-declarative-5.15.2+kde+r39-1
retroarch-1.9.13-1 smbclient-4.15.2-1 sushi-41.0-1
vivaldi-4.3.2439.65-1 webkit2gtk-4.1-2.34.1-2 welcome-3.16.11-1
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome-41.1-1 xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.10.0-2
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk-1.10.0-1 [removal]
xf86-input-libinput-1.2.0-2 xf86-video-fbdev-0.5.0-3
xf86-video-intel-1:2.99.917+916+g31486f40-2
xf86-video-vesa-2.5.0-2 xorg-server-21.1.1-2
xorg-server-common-21.1.1-2 yelp-41.1-1
Total Download Size: 263.45 MiB
Total Installed Size: 1089.21 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 105.11 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
:: Retrieving packages...
gnome-user-docs-... 6.7 MiB 179 KiB/s 00:38 [-----------------------] 100%
epiphany-41.0-1-... 6.1 MiB 155 KiB/s 00:40 [-----------------------] 100%
smbclient-4.15.2... 6.9 MiB 161 KiB/s 00:44 [-----------------------] 100%
adwaita-icon-the... 10.7 MiB 229 KiB/s 00:48 [-----------------------] 100%
evolution-3.42.1... 10.9 MiB 199 KiB/s 00:56 [-----------------------] 100%
qt5-declarative-... 4.9 MiB 247 KiB/s 00:20 [-----------------------] 100%
mutter-41.1-1-x86_64 2.6 MiB 218 KiB/s 00:12 [-----------------------] 100%
retroarch-1.9.13... 3.6 MiB 198 KiB/s 00:18 [-----------------------] 100%
evolution-data-s... 4.5 MiB 199 KiB/s 00:23 [-----------------------] 100%
nautilus-41.1-1-... 2.3 MiB 259 KiB/s 00:09 [-----------------------] 100%
evince-41.2-1-x86_64 2.4 MiB 227 KiB/s 00:11 [-----------------------] 100%
gnupg-2.2.32-1-x... 2.4 MiB 172 KiB/s 00:14 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-control-ce... 5.3 MiB 77.3 KiB/s 01:11 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-calculator... 1739.0 KiB 189 KiB/s 00:09 [-----------------------] 100%
folks-0.15.3+6+g... 1339.6 KiB 272 KiB/s 00:05 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-boxes-41.1... 985.2 KiB 174 KiB/s 00:06 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-shell-1:41... 1629.3 KiB 207 KiB/s 00:08 [-----------------------] 100%
orca-41.0-1-any 2.1 MiB 151 KiB/s 00:14 [-----------------------] 100%
xorg-server-21.1... 1443.5 KiB 172 KiB/s 00:08 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-settings-d... 936.5 KiB 155 KiB/s 00:06 [-----------------------] 100%
gcr-3.41.0-1-x86_64 920.4 KiB 234 KiB/s 00:04 [-----------------------] 100%
cheese-41.0-1-x86_64 801.4 KiB 206 KiB/s 00:04 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-maps-41.1-... 718.7 KiB 196 KiB/s 00:04 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-desktop-1:... 555.0 KiB 114 KiB/s 00:05 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-system-mon... 752.7 KiB 103 KiB/s 00:07 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-music-1:41... 433.8 KiB 101 KiB/s 00:04 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-contacts-4... 353.8 KiB 311 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
xf86-video-intel... 716.1 KiB 105 KiB/s 00:07 [-----------------------] 100%
gjs-2:1.70.0-1-x... 337.1 KiB 189 KiB/s 00:02 [-----------------------] 100%
yelp-41.1-1-x86_64 834.1 KiB 82.2 KiB/s 00:10 [-----------------------] 100%
at-spi2-core-2.4... 261.4 KiB 268 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
libdrm-2.4.108-1... 271.8 KiB 163 KiB/s 00:02 [-----------------------] 100%
libcheese-41.0-1... 207.3 KiB 159 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
pinentry-1.2.0-1... 126.1 KiB 217 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
jre-openjdk-17.0... 181.3 KiB 188 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-remote-des... 113.9 KiB 165 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
xdg-desktop-port... 112.6 KiB 259 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
xdg-desktop-port... 113.3 KiB 147 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
libseccomp-2.5.3... 88.5 KiB 175 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-shell-exte... 159.8 KiB 105 KiB/s 00:02 [-----------------------] 100%
gnome-calendar-4... 423.1 KiB 62.4 KiB/s 00:07 [-----------------------] 100%
sushi-41.0-1-x86_64 86.4 KiB 169 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
libevdev-1.12.0-... 62.1 KiB 198 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
libnautilus-exte... 50.7 KiB 164 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
xf86-input-libin... 37.7 KiB 164 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
libytnef-1:2.0-2... 43.5 KiB 174 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
power-profiles-d... 26.5 KiB 139 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
xf86-video-vesa-... 15.9 KiB 79.4 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
xorg-server-comm... 27.6 KiB 109 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
xf86-video-fbdev... 13.4 KiB 100 KiB/s 00:00 [-----------------------] 100%
welcome-3.16.11-... 31.5 KiB 38.3 KiB/s 00:01 [-----------------------] 100%
webkit2gtk-4.1-2... 23.5 MiB 205 KiB/s 01:58 [-----------------------] 100%
opencv-4.5.4-6-x... 25.7 MiB 185 KiB/s 02:22 [-----------------------] 100%
jre-openjdk-head... 37.1 MiB 242 KiB/s 02:37 [-----------------------] 100%
vivaldi-4.3.2439... 89.3 MiB 500 KiB/s 03:03 [-----------------------] 100%
Total (55/55) 263.5 MiB 1475 KiB/s 03:03 [-----------------------] 100%
(55/55) checking keys in keyring [-----------------------] 100%
(55/55) checking package integrity [-----------------------] 100%
(55/55) loading package files [-----------------------] 100%
(55/55) checking for file conflicts [-----------------------] 100%
(56/56) checking available disk space [-----------------------] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) removing xdg-desktop-portal-gtk [-----------------------] 100%
( 1/55) upgrading adwaita-icon-theme [-----------------------] 100%
( 2/55) upgrading at-spi2-core [-----------------------] 100%
( 3/55) upgrading libseccomp [-----------------------] 100%
( 4/55) upgrading libdrm [-----------------------] 100%
( 5/55) upgrading libevdev [-----------------------] 100%
( 6/55) upgrading xf86-input-libinput [-----------------------] 100%
( 7/55) upgrading xorg-server-common [-----------------------] 100%
( 8/55) upgrading xorg-server [-----------------------] 100%
( 9/55) upgrading gnome-desktop [-----------------------] 100%
(10/55) installing libcheese [-----------------------] 100%
(11/55) upgrading cheese [-----------------------] 100%
(12/55) installing webkit2gtk-4.1 [-----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for webkit2gtk-4.1
geoclue: Geolocation support [installed]
gst-plugins-good: media decoding [installed]
gst-plugins-bad: media decoding [installed]
gst-libav: nonfree media decoding [installed]
(13/55) upgrading gcr [-----------------------] 100%
Created symlink /etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/gcr-ssh-agent.socket → /usr/lib/systemd/user/gcr-ssh-agent.socket.
(14/55) upgrading epiphany [-----------------------] 100%
(15/55) upgrading pinentry [-----------------------] 100%
(16/55) upgrading gnupg [-----------------------] 100%
(17/55) upgrading evince [-----------------------] 100%
(18/55) upgrading evolution-data-server [-----------------------] 100%
(19/55) upgrading libytnef [-----------------------] 100%
(20/55) upgrading evolution [-----------------------] 100%
(21/55) upgrading folks [-----------------------] 100%
(22/55) upgrading gjs [-----------------------] 100%
(23/55) upgrading gnome-boxes [-----------------------] 100%
(24/55) upgrading gnome-calculator [-----------------------] 100%
(25/55) upgrading gnome-settings-daemon [-----------------------] 100%
(26/55) upgrading smbclient [-----------------------] 100%
(27/55) installing power-profiles-daemon [-----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for power-profiles-daemon
python-gobject: for powerprofilesctl [installed]
(28/55) upgrading gnome-control-center [-----------------------] 100%
(29/55) upgrading gnome-calendar [-----------------------] 100%
(30/55) upgrading gnome-contacts [-----------------------] 100%
(31/55) upgrading gnome-maps [-----------------------] 100%
(32/55) upgrading gnome-music [-----------------------] 100%
(33/55) upgrading gnome-remote-desktop [-----------------------] 100%
(34/55) upgrading mutter [-----------------------] 100%
(35/55) upgrading gnome-shell [-----------------------] 100%
(36/55) upgrading gnome-shell-extensions [-----------------------] 100%
(37/55) upgrading gnome-system-monitor [-----------------------] 100%
(38/55) upgrading yelp [-----------------------] 100%
(39/55) upgrading gnome-user-docs [-----------------------] 100%
(40/55) upgrading jre-openjdk-headless [-----------------------] 100%
(41/55) upgrading jre-openjdk [-----------------------] 100%
(42/55) upgrading libnautilus-extension [-----------------------] 100%
(43/55) upgrading nautilus [-----------------------] 100%
(44/55) upgrading opencv [-----------------------] 100%
(45/55) upgrading orca [-----------------------] 100%
(46/55) upgrading qt5-declarative [-----------------------] 100%
(47/55) upgrading retroarch [-----------------------] 100%
(48/55) upgrading sushi [-----------------------] 100%
(49/55) upgrading vivaldi [-----------------------] 100%
(50/55) upgrading welcome [-----------------------] 100%
(51/55) installing xdg-desktop-portal-gtk [-----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
evince: Print preview [installed]
(52/55) installing xdg-desktop-portal-gnome [-----------------------] 100%
(53/55) upgrading xf86-video-fbdev [-----------------------] 100%
(54/55) upgrading xf86-video-intel [-----------------------] 100%
(55/55) upgrading xf86-video-vesa [-----------------------] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
( 1/11) Reloading system manager configuration...
( 2/11) Reloading device manager configuration...
( 3/11) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
( 4/11) Reloading system bus configuration...
( 5/11) Check if user should be informed about rebooting after certain system package upgrades.
==> INFO: Reboot is recommended due to the upgrade of core system package(s).
( 6/11) Compiling GSettings XML schema files...
( 7/11) Updating icon theme caches...
( 8/11) Checking which packages need to be rebuilt
( 9/11) Updating the info directory file...
(10/11) Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
(11/11) Updating the MIME type database...
:: Searching databases for updates...
:: Searching AUR for updates...
-> Missing AUR Packages: llvm10-libs
-> Flagged Out Of Date AUR Packages: gdm-prime libgdm-prime
there is nothing to do
[scott@endeavourOS ~]$
1 Like
And…? 
1 Like
Trial by fire is complete and I have not been burned! Sorry @ricklinux no KDE today for this guy!
Looks like I’m still able to run Nvidia 495, latest Xorg, and video synchronization still works, which means no screen tearing!
Was worried the gdm-prime package being out of date would be an issue. But I’m still using it at the moment and I’m still able to log in, use Gnome, use Nvidia, so I guess I can count this as a win! Thanks to all you fellow users pushing me to give this a try. Just glad it worked out easily this time 
[scott@endeavourOS ~]$ inxi -Ga
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915
v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5917 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: nvidia v: 495.44 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:1d10 class-ID: 0302
Device-3: Chicony HD WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:4
chip-ID: 04f2:b571 class-ID: 0e02
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.21.1.1 compositor: gnome-shell v: 41.1 driver:
loaded: modesetting,nvidia display-ID: :1 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.0x11.3")
s-diag: 583mm (23")
Monitor-1: eDP-1-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
size: 344x194mm (13.5x7.6") diag: 395mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce MX150/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 495.44
direct render: Yes
@MrToddarama Does your EndeavourOS icon also look this small too in the Settings>About window? Usually the Icon is supposed to be quite large, but now it’s super tiny. Not sure if this is a Gnome thing now or if maybe papirus-icon-theme needs to fix it or not.
2 Likes
My settings panel doesn’t have about at the bottom.
Edit: Maybe because i have Gnome software installed?
1 Like
Even in a VM and even with Gnome Software installed, you should still have an About section in Gnome Settings. IF you don’t that’s just odd.
When i open settings it has this panel?
Edit: Is it because i have Gnome Software and Pamac installed?
Edit2: I removed pamac and still same?
1 Like
From that screenshot, you’re in the “Applications” section, use the top left arrow to go back and you should see the system settings and then scroll to the bottom and you should see the About section
You see…i don’t even know how to use Gnome. 
Edit: My icon is huge!
1 Like
Ok, that’s definitely a little bigger than normal! It used to be about half that size. I’m using the papirus-icon-theme, what icon theme are you using? If you’re not sure how to tell, open up Gnome Tweaks and it’ll show up under “Appearance”. EndeavourOS I believe has Gnome Tweaks installed by default so you should already have it handy.
EOS Arc-XD
Edit: Everything else seems to be okay. I wondered if it was related to the new xorg but this should be running on wayland?
Edit: Nope …I switched to xorg and is the same.
1 Like
I tried the Arc-X-D icon theme and I get a large and in charge icon like yours. So I guess maybe the icon themes need updating perhaps.
1 Like
Btw, to anyone just checking in, I’d say it’s safe to upgrade to Gnome 41.1. Just make sure to turn off your extensions before upgrading, and just enable them one by one and see if they work okay after updating since sometimes extensions not supported yet “may” cause issues. Other than that, should be good to go unless I come across any niche bugs/regressions, I’ll let y’all know.
This is where the arch policy of not releasing until the .1 has helped a lot. G41.0 has been out there for a while and live on at least Fedora for some time. It looks like this gave a lot of extension maintainers the push to resolve any issues before us Arch-based folks got into the game.
(Eidt - PS: I also have ridiculously large Endeavour icon on the About screen using Adwaita default icons)
2 Likes