Why I Love Endeavour - Top 3 Reasons

Over two years now for me.

My theory is a good distro takes a year to dial in. My other theory is a distro that does not agree with you will never get dialed in.

But go****n, I enjoy Endeavour and its dependability. Unfettered joy when I hit the greeter screen, I work somewhere I have to be at, and I also work at home, so commerce fits into one of my reasons.

My reasons:

  1. Stays out of my way and does not break–I am very productive in Cinnamon/Endeavour

  2. this forum community—your immediate help and dark humor especially :slight_smile:

  3. so lovely and easy on eyes and overall rendering—(I am shallow Hal)

:heart:

all these could be top 3 (honorable mention):

–I tried them all and whoever takes care of Cinnamon, thank you. It’s my home.

–any update hiccups immediately remedied

–I respect the demands it makes from it’s user (maintenance and wherewithal)

/extra apps dependable as snot and curation is 1st rate

–constant bleeding edge rolling updates that mostly don’t sting

–getting a current kernel once or twice a week

–having a user repo (AUR)

–not getting bit by the AUR

–Bryan is funny and friendly. Joe’s humor is magnificently dry. It’s a great tone.

–Endeavour introduced me to Arch, not the other way around

–Arch underneath

– PACMAN

– Documentation/Help/Wiki

– Has an it’s own ethos and sensibility. This is distinct. (Endeavour is like Roth-era Van Halen meets Rachmaninoff. It shares nothing with Deb or Fedora)

–It shares nothing with Deb or Fedora

–Lightning Plymouth boot

–the build itself, underneath the hood, is insanely responsive–encourages workflow

–easy bare metal install

–have made partitions and installed into them and have given Endeavour the whole disk–either way the installation of Endeavour has succeeded, sometimes with with wild dusty ride.

Your top 3?

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Because it allows any user to respond to those asking for help. You couldn’t do this on Arch. It also allows anyone to ask whatever they want as nothing is a stupid question. EOS doesn’t expect that all users will know basic things about linux or Arch because a lot of things are not simple to all users. Many users are coming from Windows, or other linux distro’s which they also don’t have unlimited experience with. Everyone learns at their own pace, not everyone learns the same way. Not everyone understands instructions if only provided one way or at a level one doesn’t understand. Not everyone is technically inclined. EOS gives one an opportunity to feel good about oneself when they are able to work through problems they may have and fix them all while learning along the way even making mistakes and understanding why. EOS is an endeavour!

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Hiya all i compleetly join-up and agree full with this topic ,could not say it more better…

thank you for this post!

Greetz

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My top three are:

  • The reliability and how engaged the team are.
  • This community which is both welcoming and inclusive.
  • How productive I am in KDE Plasma.
  • The installer.
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  1. It has the best of Arch
  2. Avoids the worst of Arch
  3. And puts me in control
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Here’s mine:

  1. Community; there’s no rtfm mentality and “vets” with superiority complex, instead you get help were you a noob or seasoned user in a friendly way.
  2. Installer; it simply works and it’s simple to use.
  3. Packages and apps; comes with most important installed and isn’t bloated and if you want, you can uninstall and switch them to your preference because they are not hard-coded.
  4. Fast; although CachyOS is marketed being “fast” I have not personally witnessed this, because boosted animations don’t make OS fast.
  5. Arch as it should be; avoids complicated installation which in the end doesn’t benefit anyone and doesn’t make you feel stupid because includes NetworkManager. Also wiki really helps by providing steps instead of “well-you-gotta-know+this” wonkiness.
  6. Community once more. :enos_flag:
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Title should be:

23 Top Reasons

:laughing:

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  1. it just works
  2. this forum
  3. i3wm works
  4. with how easy it is to tinker and revert (thanks eos-packagelist) I am more likely to tinker, that’s how I discovered i3wm is for me
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ups.. would you mind switching to sway?
I have done the switch last years, seems i will not switch back to i3 anymore, and with this it could be i am not able to maintain i3 setup for the ISO anymore.
From experience we know its hard to find users maintaining community editions over long term too.

if Geogebra stops launching to a white screen, why not

challenge accepted :wink:

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I will check what happens on Sway when I have access to my computer again (soon), it should be installed as I don’t think I removed it after installing i3

  1. The community
  2. The community
  3. The community :grinning_face:
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Ok, so I logged in to a Sway session and geogebra (the regular one) launches to a white screen just how I remember it. (And this sucks, as EOS Community Edition Sway looks better than i3)

Where is a good place to file a bug report for this? I’m not sure what causes it, and there are multiple links in that chain so I don’t know which one to choose

Because I am an Endeavournaut! :rofl:

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I know the team is small so the question that comes to my mind is why the team support so many different DE?

Would it be better/simpler for the team to maintain mainstream DE but not the more nice/smaller ones? If the smaller ones are wanted then a community member should be making and maintaining it, if that member isn’t found it won’t be available

Just a thought

Oh and my 3 reasons to use EOS:

  1. Team members and their help
  2. Arch without the hassle, it just works
  3. (this is personal), Dutch design as i am from the Netherlands
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Top 3? That’s tough.

  1. Community - It’s amazing.
  2. Stability (is that inherently an EOS thing, or an Arch thing? EOS feels more stable, but I can’t quantity that as anything other than anecdotal)
  3. Desktop Environments - When other distros sometimes lock down the DE’s that they provide, EOS hasn’t done that to any extent. I remember when Mint dropped KDE, and I dropped it shortly after.

EOS smoothens so many rough edges from Arch, but regardless, the defaults are sensible and the packages chosen are reasonable compromises.

Kudos to all involved.

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let me check this in a minute.

But i do not want to force you right now to switch :wink:
One day in the near future it will happen that we have to remove i3 from installer , as long as it is tehre i will properly support it: :vulcan_salute:

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Ok, but I took a look at Sway and it looks better, so…

This only accelerated my decision to switch.

I have Sway fully set up, waiting for this issue being resolved and using i3 until then

Desktop support is very easy we do not set anything really opinionated or complex. But i do for the i3 setup, and its only in the installer because i do maintain it, if i stop it will get removed.

On the Desktop setups the rule is only to fix broken things (ruff edges) and some very minimal theming using base defaults. If its to complex to handle liek on LXQT we keep it default too, only setting what is easily possible and is not stopping user from changing over the given tools.