I disagree. “Bloat” is such a negative term. And I really see no bloat in EOS. Sane defaults, in my opinion.
And since EOS basically IS Arch, the yeah… Arch is superior… which means EndeavourOS is superior. ![]()
I disagree. “Bloat” is such a negative term. And I really see no bloat in EOS. Sane defaults, in my opinion.
And since EOS basically IS Arch, the yeah… Arch is superior… which means EndeavourOS is superior. ![]()
Easy to install, plus the friendly community is a major bonus.
I agree, but I see some parallells: Years ago, while I was still a windows monkey, that was my reasoning as to why I stayed a windows monkey, instead of traversing to Linux, but after microslop killed win 7, I finally made the switch. With windows; no learning curve needed. Just “install the system, and get back to work”. No doubt a common concensus of the masses when it comes to switching to Linux in general.
Because I’m old and just don’t have the time or patience anymore.
I just want my system installed and running the way I like it without much fuss. I stopped distro hopping a long time ago, apart from a small detour to see how FreeBSD had improved since the early 2000s, when I used it professionally.
I started messing with Arch a few years ago by installing Manjaro, which eventually broke because of the special nature of Manjaro updates. After that, I decided to install Arch the proper way — the Arch way… until I broke it a few months later while experimenting. Installed it again… broke it again after about a year.
After that, I moved to Linux Mint Debian Edition since my home server was already running Debian.
Around 2021, I discovered EndeavourOS because I needed something bleeding edge. I tried it and ended up using it for almost two years on a secondary machine, until that machine died. Around mid-2024, I decided to migrate my main system to EndeavourOS and, even after getting a new computer, I’m still here.
But…
…I might move to Artix in the future to get away from systemd. Then again, my EndeavourOS setup is doing so well that I suspect the move to Artix is still a long way off because… well, you know… I’m old… and lazy ![]()
Well I guess I’m kinda lazy. I like to run the setup, do some clicks, reboot and have the system up and running. And the biggest thing is, I like the community and the attitude here, that is worth to support.
So why should I use a distro, that needs more effort and has a less relaxed community, even if it is good and original (what Arch definitely is)
The next is both an advantage and a disadvantage. The Arch folks are highly competent, but sometimes they lack humanity. I think that’s a “nerd problem” in general. ![]()
oh well then I’ll go on, the engine room is already squeaking and just a little oil has never been enough ![]()
You and the whole staff do a damn good job with EOS. Thanks for providing us with this beautiful distro and the work you put into it. ![]()
It’s all been said here, nothing new can be added. But especially what Bink said ^.
Times I wanted to try Arch: Every year, every month.
Reads Arch forum: “If you weren’t a complete moron you could actually answer his question, but then you’d have to know how to write.”
crawls back to present distro
EOS is the kindest path to Arch
I’ve used both, I installed Arch (the “Arch way”) to learn how it worked. I prefer EndeavourOS because it’s already nicely setup for desktop use and the community is a lot friendlier. Should EndeavourOS fade away, I’d probably fall back to Arch but, should that happen, I hope the community lives on.
I would suggest a counter for Mint…“you like Ubuntu but you hate SNAP”
When it comes to pure Arch, I don’t have the knowledge to install it in a way that meets my needs. EOS does exactly what it’s supposed to. It offers a rolling release system and that Arch feel, with a great community, and it’s relatively easy to install and set up.
i’ll join these exact same words from swh…
May I be so bold and arrogant as to cite myself, as I wrote a blog post on just that (with way more context, and, yes, it is kind of a love letter to the community ;-)):
"So how does this distribution answer my main questions?
Well, EndeavourOS gave me a jump start to Arch Linux with an easy installer. Additionally, it has little helpers integrated, which give you just enough training wheels to navigate the Arch world. Their team just knows where you will need some helping hand through their tooling. Still, at its core, EndeavourOS is almost vanilla Arch.
Which leads to one great advantage. As I answered myself above, I feel comfortable working with the terminal and figuring out stuff. Which leads to a main benefit of Arch: here I have one of the best documentations in the Linux sector as a reliable source: the Arch Wiki!
But then again I am, well, maybe at the starting point of being an intermediate user. I have to admit some contents of this wiki are borderline gibberish to me. Here another perk of EndeavourOS is kicking in: their forum and the welcoming, patient, and friendly people in it. Though I have an account there and try to be active, it is not easy finding a question that was not already answered. When giving an answer, usually some of the knowledgeable ones will point you towards the right page on the Arch Wiki, but if you honestly say you do not entirely understand what is written there, they will help and “translate” it and try guiding you through the troubleshooting process. You will get no “RTFM”, no blaming or frustration, even if you give them far from perfect context or system information. It is one of the most patient Linux communities I have ever found.
One final aspect I want to highlight is how EndeavourOS handles keeping you on track with the system maintenance, which is not done automatically behind the scenes as with beginner-friendly distributions like Linux Mint, but puts you behind the wheel.
As I am someone who is excellent at forgetting all the maintenance routines you have to do, the welcome tool is indispensable for my character traits. Instead of just providing some links to the documentation (which are also included), there is first one page for all the post-installation steps you should take and another one acting as a basic assistant, giving you fast access to all the updating tools you will need in an Arch environment. This includes the different updating variants, scripts for updating the server mirror lists, and more. The page acts not only as a hub to all the little helpers EndeavourOS provides, but it is also my much-needed reminder that I have to maintain my system from time to time. Just to iterate: the team of EndeavourOS, they really know!"
The text itself is a test balloon while I learn to set up a nice blog with Hugo. You may find it here: https://www.i-need-more-coffee.com/posts/a-personal-quest---linux-distribution-drill-down/
I personally use Arch, so I might be not the best person to answer the question…
but, EndeavourOS is the comfiest way to get a hang of Arch, but with friendlier community and better installation process.
I’ll probably get back to Endeavour once I realise I don’t have that much time to maintain my current setup. Which I suppose, is sooner than later.
Like others, I prefer the community at EndeavourOS. I ran arch before Antergos was born. After my beloved Antergos shut down, I switched the sources to Arcoos and was happy every time I could change to another DE (they had many preconfigured ones). Two years ago I installed EndeavourOS, and the easy installation process combined with minimal preselected software I usually install was really nice. ![]()
As a Windozs refugee, I wanted a more friendly and helpful distro than Arch. Debian had rock solid stability with the drawback of having very old to downright obsolete packages. Arch did not have that drawback.
Hence EOS. I love the community over here.
Thank you all for your answers! I’m proud to be a part of this great community! ![]()
Yesterday evening I did the switch to EndeavourOS again. Let’s see how it goes. ![]()
EndeavourOS is perfect example of distro that you can make yours, but it doesn’t fall into Arch’s sin of assuming that since you installed it you master it completely at the point you finish installation process because “now you know how your system works”.
Instead easy install and friendly community allow you to become power user if you wish, but it also allows you to simply be that basic user that wishes to use Arch but in a way that it’s fun and to use your system for, well, fun things.
Simply put…because…
“Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work done.”
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Linus Torvalds
So you’ve jumped ship now—I guess. ![]()
I think I’ll just write in German. I don’t like the translations.
Ich schreib lieber mal auf deutsch. Die Übersetzungen gefallen mir nicht
Jetzt hast du ausgehoppst - denke ich. ![]()
I came from Manjaro. Never had a reason to depart ![]()