As far as user friendly? Like how easy is it to break?
User has all the power here - so it is extremely easy for the user to break (and fix). However, it is very rare for the system to break “itself”.
Hmmm, the main thing with Solus is the amount of software, but I want to be able to do everything as far as settings in the gui.
Hi, welcome to the forum
I used Solus before Endeavour, but know that my remarks may not be up to date, since I last used Solus as primary distro back in March 2020.
Endeavour will give more control than Solus. Solus has a limited package collection if you compare it with Arch packages + AUR. Also Solus didn’t have DKMS support when I used it. About breaking, both distros are pretty stable, but I would prefer Endeavour a bit more. In my final weeks with Solus, there were issues with wifi even though I hadn’t done anything special apart from updating.
That being said, Solus comes lot more polished out of the box and is “ready to use”. (I still envy their Budgie edition) Endeavour will install only the base packages and a desktop environment with default settings. So you will probably want to spend some time setting up your new install.
If you chose to use a DE, you will get a GUI for settings. For stuff like accessing journal, working with systemd services etc, you have to do it from terminal on both distros.
One thing that is different is that Solus has a GUI package manager by default, while Endeavour does not have such app by default. If you like you may install a GUI package manager (like pamac) on EndeavourOS too.
In this case, maybe a “terminal-centric distro” is not the ideal choice for you…
Where did you get this picture from? What is the difference between “systemd System Manager” and “systemd Manager” ?
One of those is probably related to Arch package “systemd-manager 1.0.0-2” which is dead:
Indeed an old post.
Confess … it was a very quick look …
This one perhaps:
Ok there may be usable frontends for them too. I wasn’t aware. Possibly because I never used - and never cared.
I have used both quite a bit. In my opinion, the audience for these two distros is different. Solus is one of the few distros where you can do almost nothing from the terminal. It is a “just works” you don’t have to understand anything distro.
EndeavourOS, like all Arch-based distros, are not like that at all. While you can certainly install GUI management tools, the distro isn’t built around it and the expectation is that you will be responsible for learning and doing things yourself. Arch-based distros favor the inquisitive who are interested in learning. That being said, don’t take this the wrong way, you don’t have to be some Linux super-guru to use EOS. It isn’t that hard. It just probably isn’t the right choice if what you are looking for is a tool that does the job without you having to know anything about it. In my opinion, Solus is one of the best distros for that user.
The ease of access to installing a massive library of software is strong point of this distro for sure.
Again, you can install GUI management tools but they are not part of the core distro and you will be expected to manage those tools on your own.
Based on your brief descriptions, I am not sure that any Arch-based distro will be right for you.
The only issue I have with Solus is the OnlyOffice flatpak doesn’t with without being run from terminal and I had to setup a custom shortcut for it.
My experience is that with Arch/Archbased distros is that pacman is so easy to use and make PKGBUILDs for I really cant go to anything else anymore.
I like most distros and many of them are fairly user friendly depending on how deep you want to go then it can get funky. EOS in this case is as user friendly or not as you wish to make it and pacman isnt going to break your system on its own and neither is the system in general.
Arch distros mostly stay out of your way and as long as you dont blindy run commands you shouldnt or install things in ways you shouldnt then you will have few issues (cant speak for hardware,etc.). EOS gives the power to you, and you can break your system if you want to and it wont stop you but either have to follow bad advice or knowingly do it.
Agreed. I find it’s the easiest most convenient package-manager there is.