Tuxedo OS Moving from an Ubuntu base to Debian Testing

I’ve never used Tuxedo OS. Aside from it being built for a specific PC/laptop manufacturer, I’m just tired of anything Ubuntu-related. Interesting move here to Debian Testing.

I wonder that Ubuntu has stepped a little too far down the opinionated path in terms of what’s provided/enforced by the distro, for downstream distros.

Debian provides a more customisable base system.

Loosely, like the difference between Arch and Manjaro.

I think people are loosing faith in Canonical. But I never had it in them so what would I know.

Canonical was a go-to for a period of time in my younger distro hopping career. Now I don’t even care to see what they’re doing. Some of the spin-offs have been pretty successful like (Mint Linux). But even having Debian by their side along with Ubuntu didn’t guarantee them success. Just my opinion. . . Mint by itself (with mostly Debian) is probably how it stands today. . . .

Rich :wink:

It certainly has, but I believe that’s not entirely the main reason. It’s just a hunch, I admit, but it seems more like Tuxedo wants to offer a more up-to-date experience compared to Ubuntu LTS. Basing off Debian Testing is kind of like basing on a rolling release, more or less. How good is Debian Testing compared to Ubuntu? I don’t know. We will live and see.

If I am not mistaken, when it comes to security fixes, the Stable branch is where Debian puts most of its effort into.

When a vulnerability is discovered in a package the Debian security team prepares a fix and backport the security patch to the version already in Stable rather than updating the whole package to the newest upstream version.The patched package is published through the Stable security repository.

Testing has no dedicated security team, if I have understood things correctly, providing immediate patches for every package. So in practice it may actually lag behind the Stable in receiving security fixes.

This will probably sound silly, but I stayed with them for a long time due to “sentimental” reasons. And not what you may be thinking. The sentimentality I refer to is the fact that they came out the same month my wife and I got married, October of 2004.

I wonder when will Mint finally take the plunge and ditch Ubunutu? Time to make LMDE the primary and maybe, just maybe, have a Linux Mint Ubuntu base?

Though one has to be thankfull to Ubuntu for being directly/indirectly responsible for Cinnamon desktop environment. Cinnamon is a good desktop environment. If I have to abandon KDE my first choice would be Cinnamon.

The same goes for me. Although I must say I also find Cosmic an interesting desktop environment, even if it’s still “immature,” I’m sure it will mature. Right now, Cinnamon would be my second choice after KDE.

Returning to Tuxedo, I’m happy with this choice. I can’t stand Ubuntu and Ubuntu-based distributions. It’s like sitting on nettles for me. I prefer Debian, or Debian-based distributions.

Ubuntu deserves credit for having made Linux more accessible to the general public in the past, but its current management doesn’t make it particularly appealing to me.

Great news. I was considering buying one of their laptops anyway, but I was not happy with the Ubuntu base. Debian Testing is a much better fit for TuxedoOS.

I imagine they will do so soon, but honestly, The Mint team tries to do so freaking much, it’s frankly annoying they aren’t just focusing on the distro. They have Linux Mint, LMDE, the Cinnamon desktop, that XApp library… They are developing a lot of things and in my humble opinion, many of the resources they spend developing these things could be better spent on already established technologies and making them better fit with Mint’s ideals. I imagine at some point, they will drop the Ubuntu base because maintaining two distros at once is just extra work that doesn’t need to exist.

Obviously things change but IIRC they used to make it clear they had no intention of LMDE being the flagship and it was ‘just incase’. I agree with you and the fact they didn’t put a larger amount of their effort into LMDE was what turned me away from Mint as it seemed like a no brainer to me.

I never really understood why they bothered with Cinnamon either though and people here love that.

It’s the age old story of smaller teams creating more choices versus a larger team working on the same thing.

I don’t understand why open source developers have to be the most tribalistic individuals possible, but it is what it is.

You don’t follow any sports do you. :wink:

I think it’s just human nature. Somtimes it’s a blessing and sometimes a curse.

Nick talked about changing to Tuxedo OS too: