[Suggestion]Partition management is confusing in the installer

It does, at that point you need to manually partition it as you wish.

Yeah - I would have to add in some ‘escape’ clauses in there, along with some interactivity and an “are you sure?”… but what it mainly does, once you have given it the data partition ID, is create the standard dirs and then link them (optionally copy contents, if any, over first). This is half written now, as I automatically do this when setting up a system - but there is no error-checking in it, as I make the dangerous assumption that I know what I am doing! :grin:

I’ll give the ‘why you might do this’ article a shot if you want - with an optional cut and paste version of the script with an explanation, perhaps? Whatever… the script should be able to made with a good abort mechanism, and doesn’t destroy anything if there are no dirs with those names already on the data partition…

You have to create a new gpt partition first by clicking on new partition table. Then you create each individual partition.

Either choice can be described as unnecessary, it all depends on the person’s point of view. I have always preferred to have /home on a separate partition, and still do.

There are many ifs with the script, as well as with the documentation.
And whys too.

For example,

  • a /home partition or not, and why each
  • which filesystem for a new partition
  • size of the new partition (also considering the available disk size)
  • in a script certain error checking is a very good idea since not all users are fluent with linux

and probably more.

If you are still interested in doing some work with this, then I’d suggest starting with the documentation, before creating the script(s). Then others might want to help by giving further suggestions etc., and that might help getting the scripts generally even more useful.

And a new thread might be a good idea for this stuff. :wink:

I would submit that one or the other is a good idea for most folks - having the data separate from the rest is usually a better way (and easier to back up, too!)

I used to split things up a LOT, but it became difficult to manage with multiple boot scenarios - say 4 or 5 sets of multiple partitions! Now, however, the same data partition serves all the various (possibly unrelated) distros just fine. Even if one is Ubuntu (Rolling Rhino), a Debian, Arch, Arco, EnOS etc etc.

Can you explain why it isn’t a good idea to have a separate partition for /home? As far as I can tell, you don’t want to use the same user directory in multiple distros, which is understandable. But if you use a single distro, what’s wrong with a separate /home partition?

What you suggested is problematic because, for me at least most of the data in my user dir was in the . hidden folders.

For example I moved my user dir to a different partition named /data changed the setting with usermod and left a symlink in /home, had no issues with it. This one is a bit unorthodox but still works without 0 issues. Havin a separate /home might be even better.

Especially with multiple distros, having dot files present from another setup is hjighly problematic. Exacerbated further by differing DE’s on differing distros! So - for me at least - no gain for putting /home separate, just added complexity without a payback.

YMMV of course - but it is hard to see an actual upside, especially if all data (from the standard dirs) is elsewhere. When I had only one build on one machine, then having a /home separate (and a backup /home partition under another name until needed!) made some sense - now with loads of space…

Do you mean they, or THAY? The latter is a kazillion $ secret organization that is responsible for telling us the earth is a globe, that want’s to reign in a “New world order” has been killing us with air born secret chemicals ever since jet planes were invented, 5G, and in all kinds of other highly complicated and extremely hard to pull off ways for the last 100 years unsuccessfully, yet never putting even a small dent in exponential population growth when conventional weapons could do it in a matter of months maybe weeks… :rofl: :crazy_face: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

No you shouldn’t! At least not if you say things like:

A separate /home made sense (perhaps) in earlier days, but it’s entirely unnecessary now.

I love Arch with KDE, and I don’t distro hop. I love having a separate home partition, and not even on the same drive as the OS/Apps, as both drives can work at the same time without the wait times there will be if they were on one and the same drive.

I keep my business isolated from my private stuff as different users, but still can access everything from both accounts. Why? Because if any authority wants my business records, and want to confiscate it which can happen to 100% innocent people too, then they can have it, and it will still leave me with a working and usable system. I can have my business up and ruing as if nothing happened the next day by grabbing a daily backup from a friends house, and he from mine! I don’t use cloud anything because that’s a security risk!

Been computing since 79, and have heard it all, and because shit happens, it’s good to be ready for when it does, if it does!

I do any partitioning in Gparted before install, mostly when I buy new drives and retire old ones, like the last time when I got 2 NVME’s I changed my whole partitioning scheme, and set the mount points for some 14 partitions on 6 drives in the setup.

All vbfsilva has to do is have a plan in the first place, check his partition and mount point scheme closely after he made any changes, and before he moves on with the install, no need to see it again in the summery, that’s just redundant. I do it based on drives, the busses they are on, the buss speeds, the drive speeds, the partitions, and what I use the partitions for, all leading to better performance, data security, easier and faster failure recovery and then some.

Since the advent of nvme drives, I haven’t worried about performance - but that IS valid metric for deciding on a separate /home. My current setup is the fastest access I’ve had since I was on my Amiga 2500/030 (fast drive, and RAM disk for the speed sensitive/frequent access stuff). I just missed that factor as a decider! OK - so if you have a need for speed, split it off!

As for the rest of your setup, the only hard part is having a box left to pop your stuff back on - ‘they’ have been known to take off with everything vaguely electronics based (tablets, phones, backups etc). Can be worked around, but you can never underestimate their persistence/stupidity it seems. :grin:

Amigas were cool and so was “Workbench”! Blazing fast for the time, that’s for sure! :exploding_head:

Although it is true that it’s happened, by law here in the US, it’s normally when it’s a serious enough crime and the type where the computer is expected to have been used for the crime. So if you kick your neighbors butt, they get you and nothing else, you’d be lucky the let you grab some clothes!

If IRS doing an audit, and only if you do not furbish the data they ask for in the time allotted they can get a warrant and sieze hard drives, and those people don’t need your computer, as their own have all of the software they need to read them and analyze the data, and it’s pretty sophisticated stuff, and nothing a regular person would have on their computer. It’s not like they care about what software you used to file your taxes, and they are restricted to business data, hence why I keep that on a separate drive I can get out in a few minutes. My records are implacable, and they can see how I don’t even round that I am a stickler for accuracy, nor are my taxes complicated for having no loans investments… I’m just a guitar repair man. in some 40 years they never even questioned anything. I’m more afraid that if someone manages to break in and take the computer, and I have one stashed a way for emergencies the won’t want because it looks a lot older than what’s in it. :grin: :shushing_face:

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