We have been using EOS for a few years in the family (2 laptops, 1 mini-PC as a home teather). I have had to useTimeshift about 2 times due to my own mistakes, which saved my a*s big time!
Would it be good idea to put Timeshift in the Instalation ISO like checked option? And after instalation to see popping-up note – “Do this and that, so you can allways came back to safety”
The gurus can uncheck it, but for noobs like me is almost lifesaving :))Many noobs will give up because they simply don’t know what to do…they will start looking for another distro or (no no no noooo) get back to windowz.I don’t believe that timeshift is a painkiller because in both cases only 1 out of 3 images worked for me, but still,Thanx for your time!God bless ower devs and you all!
I would argue that Arch/Arch based distro’s are not for those people. Arch is for those willing to put in the work.
As far as Timeshift
Many people use btrfs snapshots instead of timeshift and some of us dont use either. Is it that hard to install yourself? I guess I need to understand why you feel it needs to be included by default.
If you need a Distribution that does more than the sane minimum (and thus stays close to Arch) EndevourOS is maybe not the right solution. As both timeshift and btrfs-snapshots (I myself prefer the latter) require some amount of configuration a base installation out of Calamares does not make much sense as far as I see, but maybe I am dumb.
As for the noobs: EndevourOS is not tailored towards noobs. It can’t be, because it is terminal centric. And I’d rather keep it that way, if my opnion is of interest or even matters.
EndeavourOS is not terminal only. It is advertised as terminal-centric and some people cling to it as if it were words coming down from an another-worldly entity. I guess that will give them superuser vibe.
They forget that they boot into a graphic desktop environment and use a graphic tool to install it. It abstracts away all the underlying processes that you may need to do in a terminal yourself.
Installing Arch the Arch way is terminal only. But then you can turn it to a GUI-centric if you wish to.
I am none of those people, to be sure. I even tinker around with stuff like shelly.
But that was not my argument, the argument is: It is not tailored towards noobs, because it is terminal centric. Never said it is because it is terminal only. Neither did the frog, btw…
And I myself hate all kinds of elitarism, that’s one of the reasons I am here. Don’t need Arch vibes here.
I’m not suggesting you use anything else I was only pointing out that many do NOT use Timeshift. I have never used it and know nothing about it other than its a snap shot type system which I learned long ago are not replacements for a good backup. I also don’t have an infrastructure that relies on me being up 24/7 so there is that.
The OS gives a minimal set of tools to START your journey with. This is not a silver platter distro. WE are just a foundation on which YOU build.
I feel mistreated by your last sentence. If you state such a statement as in your first post, and refer to something that could (and will be by some readers) be reflected on others posts because it fits then you should not be suprised that one of those reacts to this and rebukes your post.
The last sentence on top of this is just… unnecesary, because you try to make up MY thoughts. Please don’t, thanks.
Timeshift saved my ass this morning. I updated and booted to a non-working desktop. A quick timeshift --restore later and I was back up and running. You’re right, they are not substitutes for a good backup though.
Back in the begin I had used some Zillas (Resxue-, File-) but it took too long, whule PC was unusable at the same time :(…I was jut suggesting a step into rhe Linux/EOS world for the noobs. The gurus can just unvlick the option for Timrhift abd game on. Nl harm to noone
Timeshift has never been intended to be a backup tool. Not from the outset by its original developer either. It was always meant to be a system restore tool.
There is a way to add additional packages (from the repos) in the live ISO to be installed in your installed system.
However, I don’t think you will get a hint about it while you are in the live session. I haven’t used an EOS ISO for some time so I am not up to date on that.
