Stop Killing Games

While this forum is mostly for support and things of this nature, this is something I deeply care about and I feel more people need to hear about this.

If you dislike video games getting destroyed by publishers due to shutting down online only games, then please head over to https://stopkillinggames.com and see how you could help.

Since a high profile YouTuber has decided that being against this campaign is better than being with it, even though he hasn’t read the FAQ, nor to Ross, the main organizer or any other organizer of this campaign, I implore you to read the FAQ on the website and make up your own mind. There’s also a video done by Ross for this campaign that you can check out going over most things.

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Been following this for a while now

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Forza Horizon 4 is probably the latest in a long line of games that just disappeared from online stores, - because the licence agreements expired. I remember a time when you’d buy a game, often in hard copy from a physical store, and it would last.

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The good old days. I really miss having the box, instruction manuals and everything else too.

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If I buy something from Steam, and some license I could give a crap about expires, and makes it so that my purchase becomes void, no doubt, the old ways of doing things will return in full flight like they never left.


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In fact, let me write notes of my purchases, so nothing goes missing without me noticing.

PS: I’m actually going to be proactive about this, as I have some games that are quite old, and may just have this license foolishness affect them. A proactive backup. :wink:

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This isn’t about games being delisted. This is about games that are online only that then go out, without any way for them to be played again. That’s a separate issue and IMO, it is one that existed even before online stores.

An update from Steam:


https://alternativeto.net/news/2024/10/steam-now-makes-it-crystal-clear-that-you-re-purchasing-a-license-not-the-actual-game/


Like I said:

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…purchasing a game grants users a license to use the game, rather than ownership of the game itself.

Wow. What a load of sh*t. I have a PS5 coming in a few days. Glad I got the disc model. PHYSICAL MEDIA is the only way to guarantee ownership these days, it seems.

Except I think nowadays, on the disc is only a demo of some kind and when you insert it in the console, it downloads the rest. Have you seen how big modern games are? They wouldn’t fit on a disc without some sort of magic, which frankly I don’t see it being implemented.

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Additional components and updates are downloaded. But the disc itself is yours. And it can be used on another PS5. Still, we’re in strange times when you can “purchase” something and find out you don’t own it.

Technically, digital-only is fine as well. It’s just a matter of whether you have the files downloaded and if you need to sign in.

Unless it’s through Steam. If a game is removed from Steam for some reason, and you purchased it… it’s gone and you own nothing.

I think what @winnyace is trying to say is that the physical copy of a very large game cannot actually be played without downloading extra files, including updates, when inserted. For smaller games, this should be fine.

However, remember that these consoles can have tech that locks you out of a game, and we wouldn’t know if they have that functionality.

Welp… :sailboat: :wink:

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Except you don’t. There are games delisted from the platform that players still have on their account. Blur is an excellent example of that. People that bought it before it was delisted from Steam still have the game and can play it as if nothing has happened.

There are games that the developer removes from the players’ list, but most delisted games on Steam remain in people’s list if they have acquired them before they were delisted.

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Except* :wink:

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Corrected my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out! :smile:

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You actually did it twice. That’s why I mentioned it on the second one. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Edited the first one too.

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