Shut down issues

I’ve only been on the EOS train for about a week now and i’ve been loving it, however something odd is that when i press the “Shut down” button to turn the PC off it doesn’t actually. It turns off the monitor and i assume the OS is off but the lights and fans on my desktop are still running.
Does shutdown not actually shut it all down or is something wrong? How would i fix this

Welcome to the community @Timpani :partying_face::tada::enos_flag:

It is possible to change the behaviour of the power button, but how you do that also depends on which desktop environment you’re using.

Under KDE Plasma for example, that setting is found under Power Management.

Thank you. Actually fairly new to linux as a whole, starting to make the jump to migrate over given current circumstances.

Though i think there was a misunderstanding. Holding the power button on my physical desktop turns everything off perfectly fine, but when i try to press “Shut Down” in the bottom left corner, it does what i had described before, turning off the screen (and i think the OS) but not the Desktops fans and lights which is sorta important.

If it’s a weird bug that isn’t fixable i’ll stick to shutting it off via the actual button but this is a weird inconsistency that stuck out to me when making the jump from windows, i needed to ask about it

Sorry yes, I did misunderstand that :sweat_smile:

What desktop environment are you using @Timpani ?

Eg: KDE Plasma, Gnome, i3, Cinnamon, LXQt, XFCE, etc…

I am using KDE plasma and am on the Latest version of EOS and not the LTS kernel

Please don’t do this. This is a surefire way to eventually break something, especially if you went with btrfs. Please setup sysrq ASAP to avoid this.

and a simple inxi -Faz --no-host will provide a lot of system info for folks to help you with/start you off with.

Please also check the LTS kernel as you noted. Sometimes there’s regressions on latest kernel. I for one used to always use the LTS kernel on my machines.

Dont use the button on my box or use the “shut down” button explicitly baked into the DE???

I do not have a printscreen key on this keyboard either it’s genuinely been a massive pain
thanks for the headsup on the system information command atleast, i’ll write it down for later

I believe @anon63071375 is referring to:

As opposed to a graceful shutdown. Using the “Shut down” button in Plasma is (normally) fine.

Noted then, i will continue using the shut down button in plasma, i was already doing that 90% of the time anyway.
But we still circle back around to the original issue of the fans and lights still being on. If those would turn off aswell i have no problems

Also on the slim chance something has broke how would i troubleshoot it, my maintenance knowledge for linux OS’s is still very low

also idk what btrfs is or means or the implications of it in regards to all of this, so thats another thing. Apologies

No need to apologise @Timpani, we all started somewhere.

You’re able to access the log of previous sessions. This command here, accesses the last 25 lines (tail -n 25) of the previous session’s log (-1) :

journalctl -b -1 | tail -n 25

To access two sessions ago (-2), adjust the command to:

journalctl -b -2 | tail -n 25

And so on…

Hopefully those will tell us what the system was trying to do, or got stuck on.

Welcome to the EndeavourOS forum. :handshake: I hope you enjoy your time here.

ext4 and btrfs are formats used on Mass Storage Devices such as SSD, NVME, and etc.
This explains the differences between them

As a beginner, I would highly suggest using ext4 and save btrfs for later. Just my opinion.

Pudge

Ty for the welcomes, my filesystem is in ext4, i’m not sure how i would even change the filesystem this late after installing and getting all my things setup. I didn’t do anything unique in the installation process, bar grabbing the LTS kernel i left everything as their defaults

To my understanding, the warning issued above about pressing the shutdown button is valid for the situations where you have some applications open and some disk IO operation is going on.

Or if you have a frozen and unresponsive system while still having some applications open etc.

In these scenarios, pressing the shutdown button is not advisable and may lead to filesystem and data corruption.

Otherwise, on systems using systemd, both hardware signals (such as the shutdown button) and shutdown commands are ultimately handled by systemd and are usually similar in effect. They both initiate a controlled shutdow. Pressing the button invokes kernel or ACPI handlers first, while systemctl poweroff interacts directly with the system manager.

If I’ve got it wrong, partially or entirely, please point out to me what and where and I’ll stand corrected.

Please give the requested information

also what happens if you open a terminal and enter
sudo shutdown now

From shutdown --help

This is a compatibility interface, please use the more powerful ‘systemctl halt’,
‘systemctl poweroff’, ‘systemctl reboot’ commands instead.

:man_shrugging:

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You’re the boss, heres the system info.
also i tried the sudo shutdown command, same thing, OS powers off, hardware is not powering off. The problem i am trying to settle here

Please format the terminal output in the post.

You can edit your post, highlight the text and press </> in the reply box’ toolbar. Thanks!

Also, you could get important info from your logs as mentioned before:

In case you’d missed it @Timpani, I’d also requested logs here.

Sorrysorry, should i just make a seperate post and restart this from the beginning though i’m concerned this is getting messy