only select b450 boards will get a bios update so its a toss up if you actually will see it as its on the board vendor to do so. Most x470 should get it and Gigabyte actually has already posted a Ryzen 5000 bios for several x470 boards
TBH 5800x doesnt make a lot of sense considering its price point when you can get a 3900XT/X at roughly the same price while getting better multi core performance. If core count is what matters the 5800x is an incredibly poor choice and if single core matters its still awful considering the 5600x exists so I really would avoid it as its mostly a bad value.
The 5800x loses is multi core to the 3900 at the same price, equaled in single by the 5600 at nearly 1/2 the price. It really is a terrible buy
I would say avoid 5000 series atm unless youre on the high end and can use the performance or on the low end and youre building a brand new system.
The high end is obviously worth it for those that can use it, the 5800x is questionable at best for either multi core or single core loads unless you just cant wait to get a 5900x. The 5600x is good for a new system but from a 3600 you gain ~10-20% performance (depending on task)for 50% higher price tag so even on the low end it meh value wise.
The 3600 is still the absolute price to performance king with 80-90% the performance of the 5600x at under 200$, unless you REALLY need the 5000 series it doesnt make a ton of sense for 3000 series owners. The CPUs are great, but the value is only ok compared to their previous gen but obviously better than intel
Guess I should add that I compared the 3900xt to the 5800x on 3 different sites and from the preformance I personally would save the 90 and go for the 3900xt.
you can see this ( 5600x , 5900x , 5950x) see page 7
be careful , because in 5800x there only one CCX ( eight core) and for 5900x 2 CCX ( 2 x hexa-core ) , 5800x can beat 5900x if any thread have to change CCX ( not in 5800x case !)
Really not a problem for single threads as windows and Linux schedulers are smart enough to avoid that situation and in multi threaded situations you’re likely loading both CCXs so this is pretty much a moot point tbh. The 5800x is just bad value
Windows and Linux can both handle the situation regarding keeping performance for low thread count tasks. If it was much of an issue you’d see performance penalties consistently for many the mid/higher end Ryzen 3000/5000 but its really not a thing to worry about. Inter CCX is avoided unless absolutely necessary
Already trying to sell my computer here…
I’ll be using a RPI 4 for desktop replacement, until I can get this 5000 series…
The idea is go full AMD. First time this will happen in my life, always used Intel+Nvidia…
Keep in mind the core configuration on the 5600x incurs a memory bandwidth penalty(and latency too i think) just like the 3600 so if you’re someone that needs that its something to consider
Hmmm, I wasn’t aware of that, I’ll try to gather more info about this… Thanks
But in the end, I’ll be stuck to my budget, and probably stuck to the 5600x, let’s see…
I agree, it’s either the 5600X or the 5900X as the 5900X makes more sense than the 5800X core per dollar wise. @jonathon If you need more than the core count of 5600X that means you have a workload in which the 5900X will benefit you even more for those extra $100 compared to 5800X. I mean you get a 50% core count increase for $100, not to mention a more than double increase in L3 cache. What’s also great is that the TDP stays the same for both 5800x and 5900x.
Yeah it happens sometimes but you’re not consistently seeing a performance deficit from the 5900x vs 5800x due to ccx count. Its generally a non issue and mostly Windows scheduler handles things fine.
Techpowerup shouldn’t be recommending this or making that even remotely a major point. The 5800x is bad value period. It being a single CCX is moot compared to its poor pricing and no real advantage in single thread vs the 5600 and loss in multi vs 3900x and higher.
In most cases the 5900x is plain better, in the event you MIGHT run into a scheduler issue on windows its not worth passing on the 5900x and on Linux this is pretty much a not an issue at all afaik
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5600x is 65 watts TDP
5800 and all other are 105 watts TDP that mean Heavy cooling
( version Dark Pro Rock 4 or more efficient , IO watercooling 360mm no 280 not enough efficient )