Overheating problems

[ricklinux]

Yes, so now the nvidia drivers are installed and loaded but because it is a Hybrid laptop iyt is rendering on the integrated Radeon graphics. In order to switch graphics you have to use either optimus-manager or envy-control or prime.

 Device-1: NVIDIA GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Mobile] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: nvidia v: 530.41.03 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 530.xx+
    status: current (as of 2023-05) arch: Ampere code: GAxxx
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 8
    link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:25a0 class-ID: 0300

API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.1 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (rembrandt
    LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.52 6.3.6-arch1-1) direct-render: Yes

So right now is rendering using Radeon. Just wanted to see if installing Nvidia drivers make any difference. Then you could try switching to nvidia.

[ricklinux]

If you do end up wanting to try switching grapghics to Nvidia i would recommend trying optimus-manager.

If you have a combo if AMD and Nvidia, you need currently the git version to support AMD GPU’s

https://discovery.endeavouros.com/nvidia/optimus-manager-for-nvidia/2021/03/

[Acerchiata]

Thank you so so much!
I’m monitoring and, for now, I see that the situation has improved. It still heats up more than Windows, especially when it’s charging, but it’s better than before. So thank you so much.

As soon as possible I will try optimus-manager and let you know here.

In the meantime, I have a question: among these listed, which is the most conservative energy plan? I mean, which of these energy plans should produce the least heat?

[peter@endeavourvictus ~]$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/energy_performance_available_preferences
default performance balance_performance balance_power power [peter@endeavourvictus ~]$ 

Anyway, I’m really grateful for your help, thanks!

[Stephane]

according to this , https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-pstate-epp-ryzen-mobile
powersave , you might choose better for workload

[Acerchiata]

Thank you so much.

But if I run cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/energy_performance_available_preferences I don’t see “powersave”. The output is just default performance balance_performance balance_power power.

Finally, sadly, I noticed that after watching a video of about 15 minutes on YouTube, the temperature soon rose to 60°C. Now I’ll try installing optimus-manager as ricklinux suggested and see if it improves.

Anyway, thank you all for your help.

[Acerchiata]

I installed optimus-manager and I run the comand optimus-manager --switch hybrid “to switch to the iGPU but leave the Nvidia GPU available for on-demand offloading, similar to how Optimus works on Windows” as explained in the link posted by @ricklinux https://discovery.endeavouros.com/nvidia/optimus-manager-for-nvidia/2021/03/ but this is the output:

[peter@endeavourvictus ~]$ optimus-manager --switch hybrid
WARNING : no power management option is currently enabled (this is the default since v1.2). Switching between GPUs will work but you will likely experience poor battery life.
Follow instructions at https://github.com/Askannz/optimus-manager/wiki/A-guide--to-power-management-options to enable power management.

You are about to switch GPUs. This will forcibly close all graphical sessions and all your applications WILL CLOSE.
(you can pass the --no-confirm option to disable this warning)
Continue ? (y/N)

Why this warning message?

[BS86]

@Acerchiata

But if I run cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/energy_performance_available_preferences I don’t see “powersave”. The output is just default performance balance_performance balance_power power.

take a look here:

How to use AMD P-State in Linux

with Kernel 6.3, we can now set amd-pstate=active via Kernel boot parameter, passive still works. the default EPP mode is performance: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/energy_performance_preference performance and the available ones can be checked with cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/energy_performance_available_preferences default performance balance_performance balance_power power those sysfs parameters can then be changed like every other sysfs interface (be aware…

here:

How to use AMD P-State in Linux

depends on what you want to achieve - but most options it offers are non-relevant now. It can’t change the energy_performance_preference which is the only value that makes sense to modify now. I use a self-written systemd-service with a self-written bash script for that: cat /etc/systemd/system/set_pstate_epp_preference.service [Unit] Description=Set AMD P-State-EPP preference [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/set_balance_power.sh [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target cat /usr/bin/se…

and here:

How to use AMD P-State in Linux

well … I gave the task of writing the script to ChatGPT free model (chatGPT 3): User Write a Shell script that applies a configurable value, for example 'balance_power' to all threads of a system. The path is /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy6/energy_performance_preference ChatGPT Certainly! Here's a Shell script that applies a configurable value, such as 'balance_power', to all threads of a system by modifying the energy_performance_preference file for each CPU thread: bash #!/bin/b…

basically, power is what you might want on a notebook

basically, you need a way to apply the value to ALL threads. For me, the easiest way was to set up a systemd-service and use a script in said systemd-service to set the value I want.

[ricklinux]

The warning message is about the graphical session closing. That one can be ignored. As far as the other warning about no power management? Not sure. I don’t do a lot of stuff with power management. I have 3 laptops but don’t use them much. I’m more of a desktop user.

Do you have cpupower installed? Not sure if this is any benefit or not.

Edit: Did you actually set it to hybrid and does it work? Is optimus-manager working for you?

Edit: I guess my thought is maybe the integrated onboard amd graphics make it run hotter than it would using the dedicated graphics (nvidia) but the dedicated graphics will probably use more battery power? Not sure until you try these things.

[ricklinux]

Maybe as @BS86 stated try changing the entry in the default grub command with amd_pstate=active? Then run the update grub command. Here is some more info if it helps. Install cpu power maybe and start the service and set the configuration in the .conf file.

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1381g2g/amd_pstate_epp_scaling_driver_available_with/

Edit: https://discovery.endeavouros.com/hardware/tools-to-lower-power-consumption-and-device-cooling/2021/03/