Os installer doesn't detect unallocated space

Hi, I want to begin my “leave windows behind“ journey and decided for this os. I need a bit of help, though.

The problem is I’ve created a boot usb with ventoy and have the endeavouros iso there. I want to install the os on an unallocated space in the ssd of the machine, not in the usb drive.

Problem is, as I navigate the installer and get to selection of the storage unit where to install the os, the only option for me to take is the usb drive. It’s a 16 gb usb drive. I want to install it on my 256 gb ssd.

I hope it’s a simple problem. Thanks before hand for the help!

Welcome to the community @newuser123 :waving_hand::partying_face: :enos_flag:

Leaving Windows behind is something many of us have accomplished. For me, it was accompanied with a big learning curve, but it was well worth it.

Is there anything else on this SSD that needs to be kept? Are you dual-booting?

My general advice to avoid any slip-ups, would be to ensure you have a backup elsewhere of everything on your SSD you intend to keep, and then clear the drive before installing EndeavourOS on it.

You have access to KDE Partition Manager in the Live ISO’s OS. You can remove the existing partition data so your installer is now working with a blank slate of an SSD.

Again, I suggest this back-up and install method just to ensure there’s no accidents and potentially important data is lost.

If you are trying to modify or install alongside an existing OS then you might need to check its settings.
Bitlocker for example would usually make it difficult to augment the partition(s) so would need to be disabled first (see a web search for more).

yeah. I am dual booting, or at least trying to haha. and no, the SSD where I want to install Endeavour is clean. (windows is installed on another SSD inside the same computer, though)

you removed the quirks of general things?
secure boot Off
fast boot option disabled in windows
CSM // lagacy mode is off in the firmware and you are booting in efi mode (run efibootmgron live session and it shows boot entries and no error.
Is may some sort of RAID intel-RST enabled that is blocking the drive from showing?
Can you see the drive on Terminal: lsblk -f ?

quirks of general things? what are those?

secure boot is disabled, so is fast boot

boot is uefi. I ran efibootmgr and no error happened

no, I can’t see the drive on terminal with lsblk -f

and, since i have no idea what raid intel-rst even is, i looked it over and how to disable it and it’s apparently something in the bios that can break even the other os you are not even touching.

my insistence on dual booting is to have that known windows safety net in case this os doesn’t run very well. The thing is that I have already had a bad experience with linux. I used Mint a few years back and long story short a computer was ruined. Fast forward to now, I have a new machine, much better too, with windows 11, and well… we all know that windows only becomes worse and worse. But I’m afraid of going full os replacement like i did the other time. Does EndeavourOS suffer from freezing to death? You know, when the only option is to force shut down the pc. it’s what broke my other computer… constantly freezing and force shutting down.

wouldn’t the “unallocated space” need to be formatted GPT before anything can be installed on it?

I managed to turn the thing to gpt… it was simple… but I guess I needed to run over hours of fruitless methods first haha. I really hope that was it, cause I have the whole day in this.

One question, though. Does it have to be unallocated space? or does it work if it has a volume? you know, “Name (D:)” stuff.

Its fine to dual-boot.
No one is trying to stop you.
We are just trying to go through the common reasons your extra disk might not be recognized.

If it cannot even be ‘seen’ by the system that usually implies something deeper like a problem with the hardware itself, a BIOS option, or similar.

If it can be ‘seen’ by a partition tool then I still suggest beginning with a new partition table.


And somewhat aside but ..

In those situations there are often safer responses than just holding the power button.

REISUB

That said - if you are experiencing constant freezing you should probably fix whatever is causing that instead of … just continually abusing the hardware.

installer would still show the drive .. could be @newuser123 was not understanding the output correctly and it is showing inside installer it is a dropdown list of drives on top of the partition screen ..

yeah could be. I personally would format the ‘unallocated’ so the installer sees a real /dev/sdaX—I really like to baby the installer that is for sure..

i know that option. And when I click it to drop down, it only has the bootable usb as an option.

see joe above you

I would say no. that’s windows labeling

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it didn’t work either way, allocated or unallocated. Even after I managed to turn it to gpt. I’m running out of stuff to try

I always do a live install but I make sure the place I’m going to install it is formatted. you have gpt, that’s good. in the installer you may need to create a partition on the gpt area then install it all there.

https://discovery.endeavouros.com/installation/live-iso-tricks-tips/2021/03/

read the section near the top about efi/legacy and make sure your bios is set to uefi. you want to install the uefi bootloader.

furthermore a 256gb external not the best to boot from. but it can be done. I ran a distro off a lacie porsche once. the bootloader could become confused if there is windows around.

if it’s a desktop pc I would unplug all active drives (windows anything else) but the external during install.

read, read https://discovery.endeavouros.com/installation/customizing-the-endeavouros-install-process/2022/03/

leaving windows behind is a brave move and your life will be better for it

read. read so you have a little more context of what needs to be done and what things should look like before an install.

the key to breaking free from windows is ask ask ask. and you are doing that.

me and the old lady are watching a movie soon but keep moving forward. you can count on this place to keep moving you ahead. do a little reading is my only advice.

you are almost there. Don’t think D:/ that doesn’t exist, that’s windows.

thanks for the encouragement. I hope it was a good movie.

It’s a laptop, so… tall order to get to open and unscrew all that haha, let’s hope it doesn’t get to that.

if anything, I’d have to go off the deep end… again… the worry then is if the installer would at least recognize my disks after the wipe XD Can you imagine? wiping windows only for the installer to still go “looks like there’s only a usb drive around here… no other storage device in sight… no 2 factory reset ssds around here lol“

the freezing is another issue… I’ve been reading around and there’s some threads of people complaining about freezing. Now they got answers, so that’s nice. But when it happened to me with Linux Mint, there was no warning. No slowing down, just bam! frozen. At least with windows you get to notice if you are opening one too many browser tabs or leaving one too many processes going on, things slow down and you decide to close stuff.

I’m going to investigate that angle, the booting from the ssd itself. But I hope I didn’t reach a dead end just yet. I have to have it in GPT to install the EOS, but can only set it as active if it is MBR. But you can’t mount isos on a disk partition “it works if you just copy the iso contents there“, but it doesn’t even appear in the boot options.

When I did it with Mint it was so streamlined and fast. Surely because it was with a wiped laptop XD It’s tempting but scary! haha

Running out of resources/memory is not the only cause of freezing.
And if it was the cause of your freezes.. then that means you didnt have (enough) SWAP.
( Or a reasonable OOM implementation. But no one should be running out of memory when SWAP exists… as it has for decades. Like it was a feature of Unix before Linux existed. )


Back on topic.
So are the disk(s)/partition(s) still not detectable from the live ISO?

sudo fdisk -l

it was when it happened to me XD I’ve always been quite the multitasker, so when I let myself loose and open several programs, boom, frozen. Several browser tabs open > oh, let me just check this > frozen… I was told those years ago that linux had a way with process handling that made it susceptible to that kind of freezing…

I don’t remember the details, not that it matters. That was on Mint and Endeavour is all the way above it as per every youtube distro ranker, thus my choice for my linux journey 2.0 haha

I ran that on the terminal in the live environment and this is the result… I have very little idea of what all that means XP

Can you show the partitioning with Gparted.
Just start the installer and go to manual partitoning.

If it were me I wouldn’t use ventoy.