My continuing woes with arch and linux-zen are all that keeps me from letting go of manjaro

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as seen here pictured below

my continuing woes with arch and linux-zen

that problem exists on on the linux-zen kernel and not on mainline or lts and it frustrates me because i prefer to use the kernel most suited for gaming but it often fails to perform that one basic function as illustrated above.

sudo inxi -Fxzmc0    
System:    Kernel: 5.9.14-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 Desktop: MATE 1.24.1 
           Distro: EndeavourOS 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: AB350M-DS3H v: N/A serial: N/A 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: AB350M-DS3H-CF v: x.x serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: F50d 
           date: 07/02/2020 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M570 charge: 15% status: Discharging 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360 charge: 100% (should be ignored) 
           status: Discharging 
Memory:    RAM: total: 15.64 GiB used: 1.25 GiB (8.0%) 
           Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None max module size: 32 GiB note: est. 
           Device-1: DIMM 0 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-2: DIMM 1 size: 8 GiB speed: 3000 MT/s type: DDR4 
           Device-3: DIMM 0 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-4: DIMM 1 size: 8 GiB speed: 3000 MT/s type: DDR4 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 
           rev: 0 L2 cache: 2 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 57518 
           Speed: 2963 MHz min/max: 1600/3600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2963 2: 1350 3: 1351 
           4: 1351 5: 2957 6: 1350 7: 1351 8: 1350 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] 
           vendor: ASRock driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Radeon RX 570 Series (POLARIS10 DRM 3.39.0 5.9.14-arch1-1 LLVM 11.0.0) 
           v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Ellesmere HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 470/480 / 570/580/590] vendor: ASRock 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 0a:00.6 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.9.14-arch1-1 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8168 
           v: 8.048.03-NAPI port: e000 bus ID: 05:00.0 
           IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 08:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.28 TiB used: 615.41 GiB (26.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Sabrent model: Rocket Q size: 931.51 GiB temp: 28.9 C 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 size: 931.51 GiB 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra II 500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk size: 1.92 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 48.97 GiB used: 16.87 GiB (34.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p7 
           ID-2: /boot size: 975.9 MiB used: 116.7 MiB (12.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p8 
           ID-3: /home size: 765.22 GiB used: 306.44 GiB (40.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 32 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 35.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 1486 
Info:      Processes: 301 Uptime: N/A Init: systemd Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: 1394 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.0 
           inxi: 3.2.00
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I’m not quite sure what there is to see in the picture or what the problem is.

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Ya, am I missing something? What’s wrong?

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AH! NO INTERNET CONNECTION HERE!!!

my wired lan connection fails on zen and zen only

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Ah. yes, I could see that a clear problem, especially for a gamer. That would without question be an issue.

I’ve had random issues with non lts kernels. And I know it’s infinitely more common if you have “new” hardware, which it looks like your computer is probably as powerful as all 3 of mine.

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I don’t understand how the zen kernel has anything to do with Manjaro? Does everything work on the linux kernel?

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I am not a linux networking expert but you may need to install the dkms module for you network card.

Maybe try r8168-dkms

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Yeah, that is annoying for sure. It probably due to the wrong interface name being set at default.

For anyone curious as how you normally would be able to solve this:
In a terminal type:

ip a

will give the name needed ( usually after the 2: )

then type:

systemctl enable dhcpcd@(insert name given, normally after the 2: )
ip link set (insert name given, normally after the 2:) up

then a reboot may be required.

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DKMS: add completed.
==> The module r8168 conflicts with r8169. You can blacklist it with:
==> echo "blacklist r8169" > /etc/modprobe.d/r8169_blacklist.conf
Running post-transaction hooks...
Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
Install DKMS modules
==> dkms install --no-depmod -m r8168 -v 8.048.03 -k 5.4.83-1-lts
==> dkms install --no-depmod -m r8168 -v 8.048.03 -k 5.9.14-zen1-1-zen
==> dkms install --no-depmod -m r8168 -v 8.048.03 -k 5.9.14-arch1-1

Good news! Module version 8.048.03-NAPI for r8168.ko.xz
exactly matches what is already found in kernel 5.9.14-arch1-1.
DKMS will not replace this module.
You may override by specifying --force.
==> depmod 5.9.14-arch1-1
==> depmod 5.4.83-1-lts
==> depmod 5.9.14-zen1-1-zen
Transaction successfully finished.

lets see how that rolls! and TY! my frustration level often disables my higher thinking processes

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the first solution proposed i tried first and it worked.

likely the second one would have worked too but i have no way of testing it now that the first solution proposed did fix the problem

also on the plus side i have remembered to install dmidecode for memory info under inxi (requires sudo inxi) and mesa demos for glx info under the graphics section for inxi. Also i thought to check the bios version of my motherboard which i then upadated to now support 3rd gen amd xt chipsets which means i can now spend 750$ us to buy an AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12-core, 24-Threads Unlocked Desktop Processor Without Cooler if i so wish it (yay me). Hard part of updating bios is remembering where gigabit hid svm so i can run a virtual box as well as where they hid the xmmp profile for memory chipset to get it clocked at the right speed.

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i like this. i should have tried this.

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OK so the manjaro team puts into their custom kernel a lot of the features that are found in the zen kernel, its part of what makes manjaro manjaro is their custom kernels and how they manage all that. As i had been using their distro and got used to how my system ran i would not so easily use something else until i found that i could configure that something else to run as well as manjaro does for my use case. This is largely why i had 4 versions of arch installed. I need to see which will do everything manjaro did for me. Endeavour OS does it all now and now that i understand the problem with linux-zen kernel, i now have 2 solutions to get that working. Sadly, the distro i really wanted to use is Artix because it is systemd free. The second i get it configured to do everything i did in manjaro i will move away from systemd based distros in favor of openrc for my daily use. ok ty. have a nice day.