Genuinely surprised.. these are people who wouldn’t have taken a second look at Linux five years ago.. Interesting to see how this will play out in the longer term. There have been a slew of YT streamers who who have pushed out Linux content recently, part of it may well be playing to the current trend, but I think there’s something wider going on, that people are genuinely sick of Microsoft’s BS.
Quite predictable:
Will remove his DE again with some command he doesn’t understand and will run to ChromeOS .
I genuinely think they’re learning, I think out of the three of them, Luke is by far the most “oh, I get this..” out of all of them, which is surprising. I’m sure there will be another episode in a few months that either lends more credence, or goes “Hey! Windows 12! Look at that!!!”
Come on. Everybody does stupid stuff when they start their Linux journey. It seems they learned a lot now, which should be appreciated.
I watched this (series), but I have to say…
I completely filtered out everything Linus said the moment I saw his reasoning for making his pick:
“Look, everyone braindead is going to use an LLM to choose a distro, so that’s what I did and you should care for people like me.”
How about NO? I really don’t care what hurdles someone that braindead faces, and it is in no way representative of the actual problems the Linux ecosystem is still facing.
(Edit: P.S: compare this way of picking, to the conversation Steve (GN) had with Wendell (Level1) for making an informed choice of distro)
does it matter where someone chooses to get advice from strangers who don’t know them or their likes and wants. I just think its important that people just choose to use Linux.
Luke mentions, pacman -Syu with the -----c progress bar is very satisfying and the net change in size surprised him, especially when becoming smaller.
Yes, yes it does! Especially when you have the means and the resources and the connections to instead produce a video of actual value and quality to guide your audience on how to better make informed decisions.
As said, just compare this with GN and Level1 video.
Personally I hate the “I’m just a regular person” take to excuse doing “dumb things” in the LTT videos. They could present Linux in a much better light doing the “right things”. And seeing the “wrong things” is infuriating. I get it.
But it is a fair take that not everybody has a Wendel person they can call, and people do go to LLMs to ask questions. It is a reality we have to deal with.
I feel that point was also adequately addressed in the video and a lesson learned: Six months old information is often outdated and LLMs have a tendency to just hallucinate answers.
I don’t even know what that is nor do I care.
I think the whole point of these types of challenges are for those who are new and just clueless to watch and make a decision to even try. The fact is where ever you go online someone always has a very strong opinion about what you should use. The reality is that we rarely stop to take into account that People like Linus are going to try and the last thing they want are 500 answers of 500 distro’s they should use. The reality is there is NO correct distro to start with there is only what feels best to the USER.
You see, there’s a huge difference between Linus, Steve, and Wendell. Linus is a tech enthusiast, while Steve and Wendell are hackers with a deep understanding of both hardware and software.
Linus is actually a lot like many of us but with access to more high-end hardware and resources. I understand his line of reasoning, and while I’m not particularly a fan of the guy, I can see where he’s coming from.
We should inform and help new users, but as @thefrog pointed out, there is no Holy Grail Linux distribution. Every user needs to experiment, break things a few times, and learn from the experience before they truly start to understand what they’re doing.
The thing with Linus is that he does not have and will not take the time to fix his issues. He is always busy doing things. I’m not making an excuse of him here. I’m stating what I see from his business and videos. When switching to linux from Windows, you are bound to get some challenges along the way and you will definitely need to take some time to fix them or find alternatives. A lot of people start their main voyage on the wrong path with Linux and end up having a lot of issues. I often lurk in the linux gaming reddit thread and I always wonder why people are having so much issues trying to game. I rarely use protondb as my games 99% of the time works properly. Also the “How can I replicate my Windows workflow on linux” is in my opinion the wrong way of doing it. You have to go the way linux not the other way around and at the third video from LTT they started to get that. Luke is the right one here. He will take time and fix his problems and have fun doing it. My guess is that it will take a lot of time for Linus to switch to linux if he ever do so. As for Elijah, I actually never dual booted windows for more than my testing phase. Once I saw that I could happily live in linux with gaming, working and do all I wanted, I ditched Windows completely and never went back.
For clarity, that’s for every 10,000 users of any OS, not just a Linux OS (with Windows representing 9,385 of the 10,000 users). Your graph made me think you were speaking of Linux only, which is why I checked.
Edit: Perhaps I missed it initially, or maybe you edited, but I see you’ve mentioned the 400 for every 10,000 is Linux now, which spells it out.
Also the Steam survey is optional and Not very accurate for how many Linux users there are.
In my opinion thy should change it to be mandatory(and automatic) and run one a month to be somewhat accurate and useful.
So your for forced telemetry?
I this case YES! for that info and nothing else.
Like OS, Hardware, language used, and such.
It would be useful for game devs as well as other devs.
It might not have the effect you’d anticipate.
Linux users generally exhibit strong feelings about telemetry. If Steam were to force the issue, without going into detail, it might result in less people using Steam to play their Steam games.
I’m not certain why mandatory telemetry from Steam should be okay if mandatory telemetry from Microsoft is not okay? There should always be opt in / opt out option.
Isn’t telemetry one of the reasons people switch to Linux?
The Zorin OS brothers did that and got instant heat, it’s now optional and by default off. The ends don’t justify the means, a very old story.
