hello there,
I use EndeavourOS since a month now and I need Wayland, it is not on the distro on Plasma 5.X by default so I searched & installed it, however, opening it makes my keyboard disabled so what I do every time I reboot is logging into KDE Wayland then logging off & logging into a regular KDE (X11), then logging off & logging back to KDE with Wayland, please don’t say to me that I must upgrade to Plasma 6, it’s still on testing and will release on February I think, and I plan to wait till then
this problem is common (after a Google search) but unlike what I found, it did not happen on my Manjaro, I even followed the same guide I found 2 years ago
I have a zen kernel and an Nvidia GPU, this is my neofetch output:
I don’t know the answer to your question, but I do know that I am using KDE Plasma 6 beta right now, and it is in a fairly usable state. The issues I experienced on it previously that made it unusable have largely been resolved. The only issue I ever experience now is the odd app dock crash. Otherwise, it’s a fairly stable beta right now. I’m not suggesting you upgrade to it. I am just saying for the record.
By the way, welcome to the community. (Ahlan Wa Sahlan)
thanks
and I know that Plasma 6 is in a very stable and usable state, but I really want to be surprised in the final release, I was a Windows Insider since the first stages on windows 10 so I know the feeling when you live with the development progression of a software but I also know that you can find a bug never found by everyone else, report it, wait for the fix and develop a workaround if the targeted feature is a must, I also know about the risk of losing data, experiencing those feelings & risks once is enough for me
Thanks for providing some feedback on your issue where your keyboard is being disabled when you:
Cold boot into KDE.
Sign into a KDE Wayland Session.
I’d like to get some more details on your issue:
Please run the following command to provide your system details:
inxi -b
It looks like yourare using a Gigabyte AORUS 15 laptop. Are you connected to a docking station or USB Hub?
Source:
When you say your keyboard becomes disabled, is this the built in laptop keyboard or an external keyboard?
If the problem is with an external keyboard, how is it attached (laptop usb port, usb hub, bluetooth)?
After you experience the problem, can you run the below command from terminal so we can see if errors are showing in the journal?
journalctl -p 3 -b
From reading your description it sounds like you installed EndeavourOS without KDE originally. Then you manually installed KDE after. Can you provide me with the details of what packages you installed?
Note:
These are the base packages we install in the EndeavourOS build:
Would my assumption be correct, that if you booted into your system with the latest Galileo USB image in Live mode that your built in laptop keyboard is working with no issues?
Interesting you are having issues with Bluetooth and the Zen kernel. I have an older Thinkpad T450 and my bluetooth radios work fine. So maybe there is a driver needed for bluetooth?
Do you have access to an external USB keyboard? If yes, it would be worth your while plugging that directly into the laptop (no hub) and re-test to see if the USB keyboard is fully functional.
You mentioned “it did not happen on my Manjaro, I even followed the same guide I found 2 years ago”.
a. Can you provide me to the link to the guide you were using?
b. Were you using Manjaro on this same laptop with a KDE Desktop + Wayland? I’m curious whether you hit a problem which caused you to want to switch to Arch\EndeavourOS?
How to do that under Linux? If it comes to that I can boot onto a mini windows liveCD with MediCat
My OS was installed barely a month ago, so I don’t think that it would be resolved by just changing the environment, besides, using a LiveCD cannot simulate a reboot situation, unless I search for a solution to persist data
It is working under an LTS Kernel but under a Zen one it does not
No, a new one will cost me at least 10TND which is a lot, besides, the Laptop only has 1 built in USB port, so I either render it totally unusable & use an external keyboard or not
Yes
I just got sick of its problems, especially AUR, if you don’t know, if you rely too much on AUR under Manjaro, the system can break
Zen Kernels are an AUR package
PS: the internet access is unavailable where I live so you have to wait for me to test any online thing
Before you do anything else, update all your firmware on your laptop. You may need to re-install your Windows 11\Gigabyte image to do this.
Linux has a utility called fwupd which allows you to update the firmware of devices on your computer. Because of the complexities of updating firmwares I always advice people to do all their firmware updates before switching to Linux. In fact I still dual boot my laptop with Windows just in case there are security firmware updates.
The other thing to consider is fwupd does not support all computer equipment (e.g. my Thinkpad is not supported).
The reason I suggested you use the latest Galileo ISO (Endeavouros-Galileo-11-2023.iso) is its live image ISO runs KDE (so you don’t have to re-install). The purpose of this test is to simulate running KDE from the live image to see if you have keyboard issues.
There is a good chance if you used the older ISO from 1 month ago then it was using XFCE desktop for the live image and the offline install.
I’m getting this feeling that you installed Endeavour OS with the offline install (this installs XFCE), then you installed KDE from the terminal using the Manjaro post. I’m saying this because you just said you don’t readily have internet access.
What is the name of the ISO you used to install EndeavourOS with?
The post about how to install KDE was not complete. That is not an article, but an unmanaged post. For EndeavourOS install with KDE + Wayland + SDDM you should have as your base packages:
I see, I did not install windows on the Laptop, ever, and fwupd does not support my hardware so I’m stuck
I cannot partition my SSD, I am running out of storage as it is
No, again, I used the online installer & chose all available DEs
Everything already is installed,
In a matter of speaking, yes, I wanted the best gaming environment, a Zen Kernel is a step
IMHO, installing all linux desktops (gnome, lxq, xfce, kde, cinnomin, etc) puts you in a difficult unsupported spot.
Recommendations:
You can back up your personal files, download a free copy of Windows 11. And then install lthe Gigabyte utilities to update your laptop. Your Windows key will be built into your bios. So this will be detected by Microsoft and auto license you.
Note, look into the history of your laptop snd Gigabyte had major firmware bugda
After you update your laptop firmware, then re-install Endeavouros with 1 desktop, not all.
I primarily use Gnome as i feel it is the most stable for me. It tends to not have as many changes compared to the rapid development of KDE. So recommend you start there. Make sure you have good device support before trying other desktops.
From my own experimenting, i notice KDE and Gnome can mess with each others settings. So thats why when i see you having several linux desktop, well that is unsupported.
thank you for the suggestion
that’s odd, well not odd but unexpected
after a reboot, the issue has been fixed
it was a simple reboot, I did not do anything fancy
however I rebooted many times before posting this topic
but I really want to create a dual boot with windows (10 since it is still on support)
but when I logged in KDE with Wayland, the input worked, IDK what fixed it, maybe the installation command? I will mark your previous reply as a solution so thanks a lot
Good Morning. Glad things are working today. I agree it can be equally frustrating when things just start working (my professional job is QA so I do allot of system development and testing).
Why might it be working? Its possible the install of base kde with the endeavouros configuration files again reset your desktop configuration. But there is a good chance if you sign in to one of the other Linux desktops installed (GNome, xfce, mate, etc) that your configuration will be corrupted. So it is importantfor your sanity to have 1 linux desktop installed at a time.
I say this because i have spent the past year tracking interactions between Gnome and KDE being installed on the same system. So the experience has taught me about how qt applications, and user interface, even font changes affect each other.
You having the kitchen sink of Liinux desktops would make things so much more puzzling. And that unpredictability i feel would ruin your Arch linux experience.
I also was a Manjaro user. I liked the idea of slower updates (the illusion that someone is testing and slow releasing the best build). But in Arch there are to many changes happening daily. So trying to create partial stability with delayed package releases is not a realistic goal. IMHO then people who want stability should use something like Fedora where professional testing is being done. People who succeed on Arch tend to be tinkers. They actively have a workflow to do their day to day. And when something is not working, enjoy researching and talking to people to figure it out (like we are with your desktop).
I think you are starting to understand this too. But its taken me a good 5 years of troubleshooting and talking the ears off of Arch users to develop the logic and confidence to work in this kind of system. So I hope your road won’t be as bumpy as mine.