KDE Wallet

It went away depending which encryption I chose.

Another fix that worked for me was to install plasma-pam Package

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE_Wallet

For some reason it is not in the new iso.

I try that next time if it gets under my skin enough. I never had this issue before. I probably didn’t have kwallet installed but it is now. I just don’t see the need to have to put passwords for applications to run.

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The reward for the effort is heavenly peace and a tidier system :wink:

First thing I do on ANY Plasma system is install kwalletmanager and disable that annoying pile of garbage. I’d rather have plain text passwords than deal with the steaming pile of dog poo that is kwallet. If I absolutely NEED to keep passwords encrypted int he system, I’ll use gnome wallet on Plasma before I’ll touch kwallet.

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I’ve tried to get rid of this pest for a while now. Time to bring out kraid! :rofl:

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I don’t really get it. It works great on every plasma install I have ever done(We are talking about 100s of installs). It is 100% transparent and “just works” with no intervention unless a password changes in which case I have to change it to match.

The only exception to that is when I try to use wayland.

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I personally have had a different experience. I’ve never had it work correctly. Constantly getting passwords wrong, or asking for passwords multiple times, or failing to start. I simply gave up after having never gotten it to work CORRECTLY. However, I also haven’t TRIED to use it since sometime back int he 5.16 timeframe, and to be fair, I won’t be trying it again anytime soon because of all the issues I’ve had over the years when I would try it. At this point, I’m unwilling to accept that it could ever work.

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It’s a nasty little pest of a bug that comes up outta no where. For no reason. Unless it’s got some :moneybag: in it i don’t want it.

I simply don’t need it. The only passwords I have stored on any of my computers are my user password, the root account password, and my wifi password. The only one of those that is stored in plain text is the wifi password.

All passwords to any sites I visit are stored in my head. I have a simple (for me) formula that I use to generate a fairly complex password for any websites I log into, based on the website’s name. I don’t have to remember the actual passwords, just my formula. It’s been working great for me for years.

It sort of does in that it helps keep you safe. The idea that many of my secrets would be stored unencrypted seems totally unacceptable to me at any cost.

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@Zircon34
So what i did is remove the kwalletmanager and installed plasma-pam. Then it’s a differnt box that comes up and i just put my user password in and as long as i don’t see anything related to kwallet I’m happy. As long as it stays hidden and not popping up out of the blue were good!

I agree, I don’t want pop ups at startup or each time my wifi kicks in for a known network. Popups is reserved for windoes.

Edit: Then you just had to enter your pwd once, correct?

Yes…that’s what i was getting and also chromium and then virt-manager but only when i am closing it. It’s very annoying.

But I meant the plasma-pam, did it fix it. Just entered the pwd once and now it stopped the popups?

Yes … I’m hoping so! :+1:

Yeah, I don’t get it either. I’ve never had any problems with Kwallet. From my experience1 it works just as intended and stays out of the way.

This must be a consequence of some misunderstanding…


1 which isn’t 100s of Plasma installs like @dalto’s, but maybe a dozen or so…

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I agree it’s a misunderstanding of kwallet and how it is supposed to work. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t know a lot about these desktops. :disappointed:

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There really isn’t much to it, KWallet is a rather minimalist password manager that integrates with KDE programs. A “wallet” is nothing more than an encrypted file that stores sensitive info, like your wifi password, so that you don’t have to keep it in plain text because then any program that has access to it can transmit it to malicious online agents.

You can have multiple such wallets locked with different passwords, storing different sensitive data. You can store your browser passwords in a wallet, as well, but given how KWallet is rather minimalist in features, something like KeePassXC is probably better for that purpose. A nice thing about KWallet is that, for the most part, it stays out of the way.

The annoying popups typically happen either when you change your user password so a wallet cannot be opened automatically, or when you move or delete a wallet file (presumably, the default one which is ~/.local/share/kwalletd/kdewallet.kwl). Once you get that in order, KWallet will shut up again.

I think the only bad thing about KWallet is the name: to me “wallet” sounds like a stupid term for what is just an encrypted file. There’s no money in it, unfortunately…

frog_money

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