(great one, btw) and I remember having listed the shady behavior of Manjaro in the past (anybody remember how they treated their treasurer when he stood up against teamlead and said “Teamlead has stick to it’s own rules as well”?). There are others beside Brave and Manjaro that come to my mind - Simple Mobile Tools is another example how things that look good on the first glance actually are not.
So, the question is: Is there a website, database or something similar which is gathering information about “shady” teams/projects/foo in the OSS community? I am not asking for the latest shadiness of Microsoft, Google and likewise…
It’s not a question of if the browser is shady anymore, it’s just a question of how shady it is, and how exactly it’s shady.
Edit: Sorry I misread your quesiton, it’s a good question. I always look dubiously at anything written in Rust, because most rust written open source software is a rewrite of other non-rust open source software with dubious or just unknown motives behind it. Doesn’t automatically shady, just makes me use the original instead just to be safe, because there’s usually no reason to use the rust rewrite anyhow.
So a request to make documentation more gender neutral resulted in Ladybird krufekull?
It was always assumed, and some documentation have it mentioned explicitly, that presence of gender specific like he/him/etc in text should be seen as gender neutral. Maybe Andreas Kling should have rejected the request with the statement: “Any mention of he/him/etc pronoun mentioned in the documentation is gender blind and does not exclude other genders” or something similar and not “This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics. A little subtle.
Though one question remains, why would gender pronouns in documentation have a bearing on being excluded? Even if the documentation is gender neutral it still does not assure that there will not be any gender based discrimination. And vice-versa too, presence of a specific gender based pronouns in documentation does not mean that other genders are discriminated.
Document text does not determine or preclude gender based discrimination. Rather gender based discrimination is in the mind and attitudes of the practitioner. Gender neutral documentation is hardly going to influence that.
Am I missing something over here?
How is the browser being apolitical a problem for you?
There is a rather close tie-in between shady behavior in software and software developers who support exactly the kind of politics that Kling rejected.
One high profile and obvious case of this: firefox.
Also here’s an article from the opposite direction; a saner take in my opinion.
EndeavourOS doesn’t go out of it’s way to support your personal poltiics either (I have not seen any evidence of endeavouros being for or against any specific politics, as it stands it seems endeavouros is also apolitical), so why are you ok with endeavouros doing it but not ladybird?
I prefer my software apolitical, when software gets political weird decisions usually detrimental to the function or continued development of the software in question gets made. Americans used to understand this once. Now americans are just about the only people that don’t understand it. The rest of the world doesn’t care for your politics, and by the looks of it most of your own people don’t care for them either considering certain obvious points…
This sounds like another topic and not in scope with the thread.
Getting back to topic
The problem with a “Shady” list is it wouldn’t be a list it would end up being a directory with in an hour of starting forget Corporate names just the crap they are involved in that are not part of the “Job”
We live in a world of information now and everyone wants it for nothing.
Yeah you’re right, there’s also the problem of differing definitions of shady, some poeople think microsoft collecting all the data of all windows users is shady, some people seem perfectly happy with it.
Some people will go absolutely ballistic because some developer doesn’t bend the knee to their political beliefs, and consider that shady, on the flip side some people will consider any developer that bends the knee to certain political beliefs shady.
Basically the only solution is to research all individual software on your own and judge it for yourself.
