Is endeavouros good for beginners

Hi, Is this distro good for a normal user who was not a power user in other operating systems? I have 110 GB SSD divided into 60 GB for Windows and 50 GB for Linux and a 500 GB hard drive that I will put games and important files in it. I have a limited internet package of 400 GB per month, so I have this distribution in mind so that I do not have to download flatpacks, which take up a lot of space, as there are alternatives such as aur, but I have concerns because I’m not exactly into learning linux its fine for me to learn the fundamentals but I won’t dive deep also im not scared of the terminal to do stuff but will mostly use gui apps
Edit: thanks everybody for answering my questions I will use EOS :blush:

There are a lot of topics about this already.

The short answer is that it doesn’t matter if you are a beginner or an expert.

What matters is your desires.

If you want a distro that is completely hands off and you don’t have to learn anything, EOS is not it.

EOS, or really, any Arch-based distro is best for users who have a little curiosity and who are willing to learn.

The idea that people should start with a more hands-off type distro and only come to a distro like this later is silly. There are many people who have successfully started with EOS as their first distro.

The good news is that there is a helpful community here who will be glad to help if you hit any roadblocks.

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Play with it in a VM for a while before committing hard drive space. If you find it suits you, give it a try. That is the best advice I can give. :smiley:

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I think yay and systemd-boot as defaults make this system the best choice for beginners. Extreme simplicity. That’s my opinion. Given that OS is to run programs, there is no easier way of getting them installed like using yay. Simply, compare what you need to do to install Spotify on anything Debian-based with Arch/EndeavourOS and you have your answer.

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First of all welcome @Jko4m to the wonderful world of EndeavourOS and the wonderful community.

This size, well just my personal point of view, is relatively OK to start with, but I am worried as you said games if you might need more. I will leave this for the experts to comment..

I think this is OK. If you download a lot, I think it is OK to run system update once every weak or two.

I agree with you. I don’t like these new stuff (I am no techie) but as far as I know they contain all libraries and files and stuff needed to run the app. so if you downloaded say 2 browsers, you will be downloading some of the same libraries and files 2 times included in the app, while some might be already installed on the system. I said I am no techie, and experienced users and developers my shed some more light on this for us to learn more. I see those as just a way to test an app before really installing it or if I need an app for a specific purpose and won;t need it to be there all the time.

You don’t need to be a Linux expert and “study” Linux as such, the fundamentals are fine in my point of view. Just how to install an app, uninstall it, and basic stuff are fine.

This is a great start. I assure you you will be fine then.

Welcome and enjoy.

I agree with @dalto.
Other distros might seem “easier” or more “user friendly”, but they are for sure missing a lot of the beauty of Arch, lightness, responsiveness.. and much more. Especially you mentioned you are OK with the command line.

And this is the beauty of EndeavourOS, it is the community in the first place not the distro. There are some… mmm.. “other” Arch based distros that are more “user friendly”, but the community is not as here, I have been there and left them because of the standard reply RTFM and non friendly attitude.

You will enjoy it here.

But I warn you, EndeavourOS and the community are addictive. You’ve been warned.

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yes i know its easier to do some stuff on arch than other user friendly distros and vise versa but will the experience be much more difficult for me due to my lack of experience?

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think going with flatpaks is better for a beginner, especially if you’ll be using Arch. flatpaks ensure that none of your dependencies (these are the extra package the package you want needs) conflict with each other. Often these dependencies are very small in size, so your bandwidth shouldn’t take a huge hit. Unlikely to contribute to even 10s of extra GB a month. If you’re installing all of your packages out of the aur, you’re very likely to end up with hard-to-resolve conflicts or breaks on updates.

endeavourOS is almost ideal for a beginner who’s “into learning linux,” but there’s probably better options if you want a just-works GUI experience. I’d maybe recomend Fedora - their GUI is intuitive, they have all the systems management apps you want, and the dnf repositories stay more modern than Debian so you’re unlikely to ‘need’ a flatpak anyway.

Have fun on your journey and follow all the advice here!

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Just wanted to add: if you don’t choose Arch, I would ignore the “choose the LTS” advice in the link I provided. The newest available kernels in stable distros are likely to be older than the lts version of arch.

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Experience is a very individual thing. However, what EnOS protects you from out-of-the-box are two biggest nightmares of Linux world:

  1. dealing with GRUB and its all crazy complexity
  2. managing software repositories

You’ll get a very minimalist desktop you can setup mostly by just using yay.

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Agreed! And there’s hardly any branded cruft around. It was hard when I was beginning to distinguish what things were “Linux” and what was packages related to the distro. I almost feel like it’s the only distro “based” on a distro worth mentioning.

I used “just works” a bit flippantly. EnOS does “just work” in the ways that matter.

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the problem is flatpaks fills up my storage quickly i can put my /home on my hdd but once you try ssd you feel like that you were a cave man and entered the 21st century xD

I just moved my game library from a spinning disk to an nvme, so I know what you mean! There’s not any situation on any distribution where you “need” a flatpak. Ubuntu forces them on you at times, and some software in the Debian repos is old enough that the easiest solution to get a new version is flatpak

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This might be a thread that will give you some more info (it is a long one so be prepaired).

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nice the stress-free article is very helpful i was just worried that i will face more troubles using this and spend most of my time fixing it than a ubuntu based distro but i think these tips will keep me safe. :slightly_smiling_face:

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