I watched '10 things to do after installing Arch' but Endeavour already did them

(https://youtu.be/V7ABBlXcn0g)
:grinning:
So I set out to do them all.
I went to install my intel microcode. Already done. I went to give terminal/bash some color and flourish via a conf edit but Endeavour did that too.
The AUR helper wasn’t done, I installed Yay myself. Piece of cake.
The video maker said I need to create my own /home and dir folders but I know they were created.
He said setup firewall, but firewalld was active on startup and installed I believe.
The essential programs he rec’d were already installed.
Autocleaning of package cache but --I already had a file of periodic PACMAN housekeeping commands.
Disable grub delay he said. But I installed UEFI.
Configure pacman but except for initial updates they were all configured.
“that was easy”

I never seen Endeavour marketed as a starter (windows refugee) distro but it sure could be.
Made my life easier with giving me a OOTB beautiful distro. (Thanks!)
I don’t think Arch would intimidate me since I can do all that stuff (configure skeleton distro) these days…but I sure do not want to do it.
I ran (or tried to run) Alpine Server for a month and that makes Arch look like Ubuntu:).

Short version: viva la Endeavour!

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It should have installed when you installed EndeavourOS

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I manually did the github/curl method I read about to shoehorn a ‘helper’ in there but was really wondering if that was redundant. you are probably right. that would make Endeavour 10 for 10 on that list:)

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It’s definitely included, I only just did a fresh install a week ago

10 for 10 then:).
The lure of coming to Endeavour was bypassing the forbidding and archaic arch way of installing. Plus Endeavour is cool as snot and after a month my daily driver. This is coming from someone with the same distro since 2017 and not a distro hopper (sampler yes, hopper no).

But having the Arch Mundane done for you (me I mean) is an interesting twist. Makes Endeavour, or Arch, much more accessible than I thought it would be. It’s very enjoyable and headache free and I am terminal-centric to begin with. And this forum treats people right.

short version: I expected to do about 10 post-install tweaks and wound up doing none. NICE.

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I’m not sure if you’re just trying to be clever with the word play here (“arch”, “archaic”), but let’s assume that you’re not. Installing arch the arch way is not archaic. It’s just a way to install your operating system using a CLI. There’s really nothing too special about it. I mean, surely you wouldn’t consider updating your system with sudo pacman -Syu archaic compared to just clicking a few widgets via a GUI.

If the lack of GUI for performing computing tasks is what defines archaic, then most people here must be outright fossils because we do things from the command line all the time.

P/S: I guess when your system breaks and you couldn’t start a display server, that’s when you will see the value of knowing your way around the CLI.

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Edit: nvm, understood it wrong.

Oh, you mean soystemd-boot.

Oh no, my intention was not to belittle or inflame. You are mis-reading me or I was not clear enough.
I called the Arch way of installing “archaic” for one simple reason: 95% of distros have an installer.
That’s all. No other reason.
It’s presumptuous to assume I don’t know my way around a CLI. I know exactly what to do when gdm crashes into lightdm, when the desktop untethers itself, when an update borks. Etc. I can patch Humpty back together ably.

I thought there was more of my kind but perhaps I was mistaken. My kind are just because I can do all that doesn’t mean I always want to:).

Dig it. Sorry to ruffle.

All I know is I skipped that step :grinning:

No Ruffles here (and not the chips)…I agree—I can do just about everything via CLI…but we have GUIs so we have the choice. Kind’a hard to play a game on Steam via CLI…

Not because I’m lazy, but because I like to have options…

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Sometimes when I think about EndeavourOS it’s just too good to be true.
Hopefully it’s will continue to be so.

Downsides - after it it’s painfully to use any other OS or distro.

this ^

and this ^. been back to my old distro to update once a week…after update I go “ok, good, are we done here?” $ reboot into endeavour…

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I never thought you were. I just can’t stand inaccuracies.

“Archaic” is synonymous to “obsolete.” It implies that something is a relic of the past and that there’s no longer any value in using/doing it. If there are other non-ambiguous ways of interpreting the word, then I defer to your superior knowledge.

The lack of GUI installer only makes an installation process less user-friendly, not archaic (see the definition of archaic above). Diskettes are archaic because the demand for digital storage has evolved far beyond what they are capable of. They are archaic because there is no longer any practical value in using them. Newtonian Physics, on the other hand, is not archaic (even though it is hundreds of years old) because there is still practical value in its use – in non-relativistic fields like civil and automobile engineering.

Err… What? :face_with_spiral_eyes:

When your display manager freezes/crashes, it usually just shows a blank screen and you have to switch to another tty. Either that, or it drops to a tty straightaway. It won’t automatically trigger a second display manager even if you have it installed.

That postscript was added because of your UEFI remark. Maybe I was mistaken, in which case I apologize.

I see. Glad to know that.

FYI:

You never need to create your home directory manually even on Arch. The home directory will automatically be created when you create your user account as long as you pass the -m flag to the useradd command.

Pacman is also ready to use on a fresh Arch installation. No additional configurations are required.

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I beg to differ: it is up to the user to set ILoveCandy in /etc/pacman.conf. Without it, Pacman will “technically” still “work”, but…I mean…what are you doing?!

Is it even really Pacman?! :face_with_monocle:

pac man GIF

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No i meant soybean boot. :wink:

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ILoveCandy was supposed to be an Easter Egg, but so many distros set it as the default, they’ve ruined it.

Fair enough. I respect you appreciate accuracy and literalness in text. Editing others for clarity is a slice of my bread and butter.
I’m still a fan of hyperbole, and as far as a personal communication ethos I quote Hunter S. Thompson who said “my concern with accuracy is on a far different level than just nickel and dimes.”
But I shall try :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :grinning:

A certain you-colored distro doesn’t, at least not when I used to use it, 3 years ago.

Excuse me, but that is really anuraphobic. Wow, just wow.