I notice that on Distrowatch, Endeavor OS has reached the number 3 position, quite impressive. How about being preloaded on select hardware?

Manjaro and Mxlinux are offering small mini Pc’s or laptops with their distributions preloaded. Have the maintainers of the Endeavor OS considered doing the same?

I know it’s not a trivial step to take, but I would buy a mini-Pc with a later generation Ryzen CPU and 32 GB of ram. Would be cool. Yes, I can do that myself, find a mini-Pc and load the OS, but to support the project would be a nice way to go…

This is the one that Manjaro is offering with their OS preloaded…

MINISFORUM Venus UM790 Pro Mini PC AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS up to 5.2 GHz 64GB DDR5 1TB SSD with AMD Radeon 780M, 4X USB3.2, 2X USB4, 2xHDMI 2.1, 2X PCIe4.0, Wi-Fi 6E/BT5.3, RJ45 2.5 G

Around $650 on Amazon currently.

I would say no, would require a dedicated team to do this. Give it another 10 years or so who knows

My biggest concern if I were in the developers’ position is if someone is sold something with your software preloaded on it then you’re arguably on the hook to make sure that everything works all the time - for a rolling release OS, it’s a given that things can and will break, which the kind of people who buy preloaded/prebuilt systems may not be so understanding of.

Perhaps larger teams (oftentimes with big corporate backers) can afford to do all the additional testing and bugfixing required, but for a community-driven project it seems unreasonable to ask it of them.

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First of all, on your title

I notice that on Distrowatch, Endeavor OS has reached the number 3 position, quite impressive.

This is not impressive at all.
From Distrowatch Page Hit Ranking :

The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

Simply put, that distrowatch ranking is an absolute nothing-burger and I really wish the owner of that website would retire this abomination of a “statistic” at some point, as it does nothing but confuse Linux newbies that can’t come to that conclusion simply by seeing MX Linux on #1 for decades…


Now on your question, I’d say what you’re wishing for is unlikely.
That said, any laptop that comes pre-loaded with any linux distro (and does it good enough that it becomes reputable for it), will generally be perfectly fine with any other distro, as the hardware level compatibility work is usually upstreamed to the kernel itself.

So, for example, buying something from S76 and putting your distro of choice on it, should work fine. Same with, for another example, the list of Lenovo devices that do some work to be “Fedora Ready”.

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I’ll install EOS on any laptop you want for $100+ shipping. Then it’s sort of “pre installed” for you :grin:

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I thought for a second that on Distrowatch, Manjaro is ahead of EOS. It isn’t. Mint and MXLinux are ahead. Can someone tell me why is MXLinux ahead though? I’ve never heard anyone talk about it before lol

Cos people keep checking out the site, Page Hits per Day

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Well, as I said in my follow-up comment, I can do this myself. I just assumed other distros do it as a promotion or to make additional income.

Yer but they have much bigger teams working on it. Like next time testing comes around you can see the limited amount of people here who test.

Yes. A couple of people have already said the resources aren’t there.

Yer me in my first comment

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Not exactly…

In the case of Manjaro, Manjaro The Company is the one behind that. Manjaro is not simply a “distro” since around 2018 or so I believe. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but while at it, I believe Manjaro is a for-profit company btw, so “selling” is a no-brainer.

In the case of Fedora, it’s not Fedora (or RedHat) as far as I know that pushes that at all. It’s usually companies that produce/sell Hardware (eg Lenovo) that indirectly benefit from supporting a reputable Linux distribution, because that enables marketing it for Enterprise Use. Of course Fedora is happy to get that “promotion” indeed, as it might indirectly help grow the community, increase the contributions to the project (which appears to be the case from what I’ve seen), etc. It also makes that HW distributor more enticing to members of that same community.

In the case of S76, they are directly the distributor/seller of the Hardware, and being Linux-first is pretty much in their mission statement. In this sense, the hardware itself is selected/produced to be Linux compatible. Their distribution (Pop_OS!) is simply a development step that allows them to streamline support (which they are legally bound to offer anyway at this point) and probably saves them time and money in the process (not to undermine their work of course, I absolutely love what they are doing and I’m excitedly waiting for their COSMIC DE).

(Honorable HW mention: Framework might be another relevant player in the future… I haven’t looked how their stance and work on Linux has developed for a while)

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Yeah, after doing it so many times, I can install almost any distro in 15 minutes or less.

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Half blind with a one hand in a fire the other in a hornets nest, becomes a second nature

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I have 4 machines here, all running Endeavor Os. I never found the installation to be difficult. I don’t know why people think I needed it preloaded on something.

I just liked the idea that it could be as a promotion. If no resources, fine.
Jeez, it was just a suggestion.

3 years ago, I was running Mint, and came to this one because of the rolling release feature and faster updates of major packages.

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Mate wasn’t having a go, and didn’t mean any offense hey. Was just pointing out facts. Sorry if it came across that way.

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Maybe pre installed ISO on a thumbdrive with EOS logo on it?

You can buy those now all over the Internet. :rofl:

I can’t believe in 1 Trillion Years that MXLinux is #1 every. single. week.
That was the worst 2 computing weeks of my life after Free BSD…

On a seperate note, Endeavour has earned this the hard way and it’s earned it’s following.
I read Jesse’s site regularly but it’s common knowledge not to put much stock in the ‘top 100’ list…

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