How often does your system break? Am I doing something wrong?

The thing I hear over and over and over again is that rolling release OSs break all the time, especially if they are Arch based. I’ve been daily driving arch systems (EOS or vanilla Arch) for almost three years now and I haven’t had a single showstopping issue in that entire time. And I was also foretold bugs that I’d have to manually try and get rid of or work around of. So, clearly, I must be doing something wrong, since this does not reflect my experience in the slightest. I’ve just had a very robust system where pretty much everything works and updates often.

So just out of curiosity; how often does an update or a hardware upgrade break your system?

Over the years I’ve run Manjaro, Antergos, Arch, CachyOS, and EndeavourOS. Pretty much the same experience here… Nothing I would consider “OS breakage.”

I think one’s experience helps determine what is “hard” and what is not. I’m an old dog when it comes to Linux. Been playing with it since the Days of Caldera. Been completely daily driving only Arch/Arch based for the last 8 years. Only serious issue I have ever had was Pebcak.

I’ve been running EndeavourOS for 2.5 years and no issues…sure 2 times i had to Chroot into my system after Kernel update went fubar but easy to fix. :sweat_smile:

I’m no expert at Linux but have tried alot of different distros over the years ever since Mandrake Linux(early 2000s).

As the previous people have already said, the last time my system broke was because I was testing out something I hadn’t tried before. Not everything you hear is true but there are times when things break and becareful what you wish for :wink:

I’ve been using Endeavour for about 1 1/4 years. I have had nothing break, but a few manual interventions when updating have been required.

10 years on Arch. Multiple installations. No backups/snapshots/etc. Zero breakage. In fact, that very first installation is still working fine.

Switched to EndeavourOS from Antergos.

Since then, I have restored GRUB only twice on two of the three computers. And that’s it.

I haven’t had to do any of this. Also no GRUB breakage since I just boot directly from rEFInd and probably wouldn’t even know if it broke.

It’s simple as ‘Linux gives you the freedom to be stupid.’, if you’re stupid, bad things happen.
Bad things may happen due to things outside your control too…but..are fairly rare.

Several years of EOS, only a couple of “breaks” that were not my fault, and all were easily remediated after reading Arch news.

3, almost 4 years zero problems till now. Daily updates. I’m doing the same mistakes :smiley:

Nice, yeah it was just some random Kernel hiccups during update(and my hardware Maby?).

Like i said it was easy fixable.

Last time I had a “serious” breakage was because of an update to some apparmor profile not playing nicely with the latest systemd back then.

Otherwise, not any breakage for a very long time so far I remember.

The days of me breaking my systems doing stupid things are over.
I keep doing them though in other areas of my life :sweat_smile:

I switched to Linux like 2-3 years ago, first on Garuda now here. Never had any issues except me sometimes messing things up (usually ui related when trying to customize), so to fix these I just load a snapshot and then I’m good (if I can’t fix it)
So nothing huge… Except the kernel panic issue that I have right now on my laptop that I can’t fix since months… But my pc is going strong still..

I would say not often. Most breakages are causes by users inexperience, lacking knowledge, making a mistake or plain just not reading up on things, checking and understanding before doing something. If you use a specific distro you need to follow that distro, be on that forum and know what’s going on if issues arise. I’ve done it myself so this not to infer blame but rather to educate. Sometimes we rely too much on knowledge we think we have but there are sometimes a gap …. of missing connecting links or dots that prove that. Software doesn’t always play nice with the hardware. :wink: … and then sometimes hardware is just shall we say inferior!

No serious breakage from regular updates, just the minor bug that pops up on very rare occasion that’s found upstream and fixed pretty quickly

I did some something stupid recently where I had to chroot in to fix but that was on me :sweat_smile:

Several years in and I’ve never had my system break. I’ve maybe had to make two or three manual interventions for very minor stuff.
Seriously I don’t know where this “rolling OS always break” twaddle comes from, maybe from people who have trouble putting their trousers on the right way round :laughing:, sorry maybe a bit harsh but come on, it’s just nonsense, we all know that.

Someone recently posted on Arch subreddit about how Arch overall was stupid simple (and it really is), once you grasp a couple of basic concepts. I mean yes, there’s definitely technical expertise required to assemble the jigsaw puzzle, but once you do, it’s pretty smooth sailing.

The grub bootloader upgrade and configuration incompatibilities issue three years ago wasn’t handled well by Arch Linux itself, but the support of the :enos: team was excellent. Other than that, nothing that has made my bum squeak :sweat_smile: