GUI package manager specifically for EnOS?

Hey, it’s Linux, and Arch. We have the freedom of choice.

And I think EOS does a great job combining all that’s important.

2 Likes

:rofl:

5 Likes

:backhand_index_pointing_up: :100:

I use it too. Everyday taking the bus to my work :rofl:

1 Like

Maybe we could sell some merch with this text. Things like muggs, caps, shirts… you know.

I guess I should get some percentage of the profit :sweat_smile:

PS. we could even make it a bit more personal:

"I am Terminal Centric, by the way!
:rofl:

1 Like

Indeed, as my first source to look for new packages is done via the browser, checking official packages and the AUR. Not in the terminal directly. Or an GUI based application.

Neither pacseek nor octopi provide direct access to the commenting system. And most of the time, current issues with these packages are communicated via pinned comments. OctoPi had the disadvantage that the list of dependencies is not that obvious. But included a handy update notifier for the systems tray. Pacseek summaries those quiet nicely. But via pacseek you could easily miss that an package is quiet old. And as it is essentially an TUI, that might be a bit too old school for those who prefer GUIs.

I’ve kept octopi on my system, mostly for update notification. But then apdatifer for KDE Plasma was shared here in the forum and I moved to this KDE widget that also notifies about updates within KDEs ecosystem.

2 Likes

I would wear that t-shirt if you came in less than what I’ve seen custom print jobs be ticketed. I don’t remember who (which is good because then I’d name names), but I saw some coffee cups at $20 each, and t-shirts at $35. I may want to help, but I don’t want to fund your grandkids college funds :wink:

1 Like

I personally don’t care what a user puts on their system. The only issue I have is that We basically tell you that we are Terminal Centric to suggest that we don’t Have a package manager or for that matter a bunch of tools. What we have is a stable way to install Arch with a few sane defaults and only a few programs to assist in OS management.

We simply don’t have a large enough of a Development team to Continuously update a Package manger along with A ISO every few months and the few tools we keep updated. We have only a couple of Developers all of whom have Jobs and a Life outside of EndeavourOS. The focus of the OS is to give you a Starting point not to give you a ready made OS such as Windows and Other Distro’s try to do. We approach the OS with the Build It Yourself attitude in mind

3 Likes

I use Arch, btw! :rofl:
With pacman as its de facto and default package manager :wink:

1 Like
  1. I’m here because it’s terminal-centric.
  2. gnome-software a good alternative to discover but both look like comic books to me
  3. I like the idea of pacseek but I can’t (yet) get it to tell me what’s installed if I’m looking thru a list of programs
  4. see #1
    :slight_smile:

I just use what conveniences me most, gets the work done, and is understandable for friends, family, and those I support.

Linux Mint, and now EOS, are the top two contenders, currently, depending on use case. It could, in theory, also be MacOS or even Windows, but these latter two are highly improbable… :wink:

If I search for a program, it tells me what’s installed.

Not sure what you mean by “if I’m looking thru a list of programs.”

1 Like

Some package names are to large for the left pane then do this to enlarge the left pane.

1 Like

The use of the phrase “terminal centric” relieves the EOS team from having to answer for lack of a gui package manager, among other various system admin tools. I do not trust any gui package manager on an Arch Linux based system. I have had bad experiences with Pamac and Packagekit based tools. I support the EOS team for not including any gui package manager. Encouraging users to rely on terminal based package management under Arch is a best practices approach. If a user wishes to experiment with gui package management, that is completely on them.

1 Like

Judging by this and the point made in a post a bit further up, it seems that the “terminal centric” in the context of EOS means the lack of GUI package manager. And perhaps other system admin tools. However, I haven’t seen users asking as much for other GUI admin tools as they ask for a GUI package manager.

The question is, when EOS tries to be as close to Arch as possible, why is there a need for justifying the lack of a GUI package manager with an epithet, “terminal centric”, with such a reduced “semantic range”?

I doubt that people reading the front web page of EOS, if they do it at all, associate “terminal centric” with this idea and also I wonder if without it, this forum would be inundated by new users asking why EOS doesn’t ship a GUI package manager.

I work in a public building. In that building there are numerous signs informing customers of important directional information and policy guidelines. Most customers do not read the signs, they ask the questions already answered by the signage. The signs are more for use of the staff to help answer questions from customers.

In much the same vein, the phrase “terminal centric” is like a sign that most users will not see, nor appreciate the meaning if they do read the message. However, it is still useful to have the message posted, if for no other reason than to be able to point to it when answering the question why there is no gui package manager. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

1 Like

Fair enough.
Next time anyone will be asking for a GUI package manager, I’ll point them to:
https://endeavouros.com/
and let them figure out what “terminal centric” means by themselves :wink: :sweat_smile:

1 Like

It absolutely should be a wallpaper. Yeah, I know you can just pull it from the post but not everyone will see this thread.

1 Like

pretty much like you re now except that install column is disappeared.
maybe I need to .cfg?

ahhhh! thank you!

EDIT: new to pacseek, I am still mostly yay/pacman right now.

1 Like

Well, I went and made one…

2 Likes