Freezing after install

like to install Endeavour on my imac 2012 natrual , after 2 times failings with partition schemes ,tried automatic partitioning and gnome desktop only.But after booting desktop was freezing while changing backround pics. after several rebootings still the same …black screen.
what I am doing wrong here , had until 2019 Antergos,and until now Solus OS on,
thanks Wolf

Hi @guy :slight_smile: During install, the ‘base and other packages’ folder can be opened up and actually contains various drivers, which can be unselected if not needed, and fix the freezing (happened in my case). If you know which drivers you need, it might be worth a look in there.

Other than that, I’m not very tech, lol, so, if you post your inxi -Fxz I’m sure others will be able to help.

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Welcome to the forum. There could be many reasons for freezing, impossible to tell from your description, so you should provide more details.

As suggested above, post the output of

inxi -Fxxxza

If inxi is not installed, first install it with

sudo pacman -S inxi
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while tried second install choose nvidia,but no joy .how how get any details while not logging in , sorry I am only a simple user . will try last time offline install with xfce and hope it will work.
thanks for helping

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You’re welcome, and just type in what @kresimir has said, in the terminal … sudo pacman -S inxi, and let it install, then copy/paste into the terminal inxi -Fxxxza. The results of that need to be posted here; when you do that, choose the </> button in the toolbar just above where you’re typing, and put the text in there. Apologies if I’m posting stuff you already know.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.8.14-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux 
  root=UUID=fd894bbd-5a32-49f5-a6d0-4607e2c016d7 rw quiet 
  resume=UUID=7d489bc1-c676-4471-b60b-69cbc35c3032 loglevel=3 nowatchdog 
  Desktop: GNOME 3.38.1 tk: GTK 3.24.23 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM 3.38.0 
  Distro: EndeavourOS 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Apple product: iMac10,1 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 13 v: Mac-F2268CC8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F2268CC8 serial: <filter> BIOS: Apple 
  v: IM101.88Z.00CC.B00.0909031926 date: 09/03/09 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E7600 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Penryn family: 6 model-id: 17 (23) stepping: A (10) microcode: A0B 
  L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 12211 
  Speed: 3051 MHz min/max: 1596/3059 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3051 2: 3051 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled 
  Type: mds 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP7A [GeForce 9400] vendor: Apple driver: nouveau 
  v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0869 
  Device-2: Apple Built-in iSight type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 1-4:2 
  chip ID: 05ac:8502 serial: <filter> 
  Display: wayland server: X.org 1.20.9 compositor: gnome-shell 
  driver: nouveau note: display driver n/a - try sudo/root display ID: 0 
  resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> 
  Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing. 
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:08.0 chip ID: 10de:0ac0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.8.14-arch1-1 
Network:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: 21e0 
  bus ID: 00:0a.0 chip ID: 10de:0ab0 
  IF: enp0s10 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl 
  port: 1000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002a 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 6.76 GiB (1.5%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418ASQ size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: AP24 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 457.90 GiB size: 449.72 GiB (98.21%) 
  used: 6.76 GiB (1.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.85 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
  priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 62.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1197 
Info:
  Processes: 168 Uptime: 7m Memory: 3.57 GiB used: 978.4 MiB (26.8%) 
  Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: pacman: 911 lib: 235 
  Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18 running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.1.07 
[wolf@wolf-imac101 ~]$ 


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Looks like it’s running on Wayland,. Maybe log on with standard Gnome or Xorg. It’s also running on open source Nouveau for the Geforce 9400 GT

Nvidia is the 340xx series drivers which i think are only available from the AUR.

I would try logging in on non wayland.
Also notice the CPU is running a bit warm. Not sure if that’s normal on these Macs.

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now after 5.or 6. installation running it for while, adding apps including changed log in with Xorg,after this changed backround pics and bang!!! freezing ,after reboot all black,only can move mouse to play around…mmmmmhhhhhh

Is this still on Gnome? You may need to try the Nvidia 340xx drivers from the AUR.

just follow your advice and step by step like in here :slight_smile:https://endeavouros.com/docs/hardware-and-network/graphic-cards-gpu-driver-and-setup/nvidia/nvidia-installer/ and after reboot Iam back in, see if it works for a while, thank you very much for helping , hard day today,but happy now

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I wasn’t sure if it would pick up the driver for that card using the nvidia-installer-dkms Because it is an older Geforce 9400 GT I thought you would have had to install them from the AUR.
Do you have inxi installed?

yay -S inxi

Post this command

inxi -G

thats the new outcome : wolf@wolf-imac101 ~]$ inxi -Fxxxza

System:
  Kernel: 5.8.14-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux 
  root=UUID=fd894bbd-5a32-49f5-a6d0-4607e2c016d7 rw quiet 
  resume=UUID=7d489bc1-c676-4471-b60b-69cbc35c3032 loglevel=3 nowatchdog 
  Desktop: GNOME 3.38.1 tk: GTK 3.24.23 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM 3.38.0 
  Distro: EndeavourOS 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Apple product: iMac10,1 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 13 v: Mac-F2268CC8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F2268CC8 serial: <filter> BIOS: Apple 
  v: IM101.88Z.00CC.B00.0909031926 date: 09/03/09 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E7600 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Penryn family: 6 model-id: 17 (23) stepping: A (10) microcode: A0B 
  L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 12211 
  Speed: 1592 MHz min/max: 1596/3059 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1592 2: 1592 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled 
  Type: mds 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP7A [GeForce 9400] vendor: Apple driver: nvidia 
  v: 340.108 alternate: nouveau bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0869 
  Device-2: Apple Built-in iSight type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 1-4:2 
  chip ID: 05ac:8502 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.9 compositor: gnome-shell driver: nvidia 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa alternate: nouveau,nv 
  resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> 
  Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing. 
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:08.0 chip ID: 10de:0ac0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.8.14-arch1-1 
Network:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: 21e0 
  bus ID: 00:0a.0 chip ID: 10de:0ab0 
  IF: enp0s10 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl 
  port: 1000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002a 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 9.04 GiB (1.9%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418ASQ size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: AP24 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 457.90 GiB size: 449.72 GiB (98.21%) 
  used: 9.04 GiB (2.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.85 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
  priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 62 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1200 
Info:
  Processes: 173 Uptime: 20m Memory: 3.57 GiB used: 1.16 GiB (32.4%) 
  Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: pacman: 965 lib: 263 
  Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18 running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.1.07 
[wolf@wolf-imac101 ~]$

Okay it looks like its running on the 340xx drivers. :+1: That’s great hopefully it works better?

Edit: Also see it is running on xorg. So now you can try log in under wayland gnome and see . If not working stick with xorg.

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thanks great :smiley:

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I’m not sure how you got the 340xx version installed because i didn’t think the nvidia-installer or nvidia-installer-dkms would provide this version.

Unsupported drivers:

  • 340xx –> unsupported but works with xorg 1.20 (current version)

I looked it over again and it looks like only xorg is supported anyway.

Affected Cards: GeForce 8/9, ION and 100-300 series cards [NV5x, NV8x, NV9x and NVAx]

The driver can be found in the AUR or use the default Nouveau driver shipped with the kernel

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The Nouveau driver is known to cause system freezes with older Nvidia cards.

The easiest way to install 340xx dkms drivers:

yay -S nvidia-390xx-dkms

Post-transaction hooks will take care of dkms install automatically.

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I guess the freezing was because of wayland on the Geforce 9400 GT is my guess or as you say Nouveau?

My computer with GeForce GTX 550 Ti freezes even on xorg with the Nouveau driver. Of course, it’s difficult to say whether that is the case here, but it very well could be.

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I have GTX 1060 6 GB on one of my systems and it seems to be okay. But i use nividia-dkms version.

Oh yes, my GTX 550 Ti works fine with the 340xx-dkms driver from the AUR. No freezes.

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