For those seeking help - SYSTEM LOGS, please

the main issue is that “new to us” users do not read much about the OS nor following hints on the process posting.

I tried to add it two more times, this is a new user writing first post:


“check out this blog post” will also link to general info and to the log wiki…

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No I’m just talking generally there is no huge regimen to maintaining it. It’s all common sense things that one should do with a rolling release distro. Keeping it updated, always checking for updates before installing a new package, not doing things that you don’t understand or know work. Knowing what you need to do and understand it before doing it. A lot of people come from Windows with limited experience on Linux and or they have dabbled with linux using ubuntu or some other distro such as mint. They tend to relate everything to the only things they know or have had some interactions with and usually it’s not the same. Or they google stuff and get information that is not correct or related.

People need to read! They need to go on the forum and read the Wiki pages. They need to familiarize themselves with EOS and Arch when necessary but mainly use the information that’s been provided for them.

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No problem from my end, I agree with everything here too be honest and I don’t have a regiment really either for common use other than updating once a week and checking packages each time, knowledge helps me avoid more issues while using the system. I admit I wrote more than intended back then and overdone my point a “bit” (It was 4-5AM), I still stand by what I wrote but just to clarify I didn’t intend it to be as big or direct looking back at it today.

I thought your comment was referring to me adding the maintenance based posts making things seem complex, even though it was off from original topic I only wanted to help new people who come across them and don’t mind reading a bit and didn’t want it to seem like I was pushing new users away or being unhelpful. I was a new user once (Still am) and found quite a lot of my windows knowledge didn’t really translate over to linux completely and had to learn new ways of doing things anyway.

REISUB for example I feel is good for all new users to be aware of, sometimes users restart unsafely before they are able to make a help post or get logs and can end up with more issues as a result.

Either way I won’t veer further off topic from the thread after this, originally I intended just the one message with the guides.

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It used to be in the “welcome to the forum” post thing you got when you sign on here. Although I don’t know if it still is.

Edit after reading more of this, I believe it looks like from Joe it still is.