EndeavourOS XFCE Junk Removal - Lotus Style

How to debloat:

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The problem I have with your recent endeavour to remove what you call junk is that your examples are minute (I realize removing tons of minute items will add up IF enough is found and removed that does not negatively impact the rest of the system). If I carry your metaphor into cars, removing imagemagick is akin to removing a cigarette lighter from the car. It weighs next to nothing, yet can be used productively to perform its task, and can be used by other applications to assist in performing their tasks. Much in the same way a cigarette lighter can be used to light cigarettes, it can also be used as a power source for other tools. The benefit of imagemagick is multi faceted and compared to the weight it adds, results in its benefits justifying its inclusion and preserving the principle of minimalism.

I am happy to see you refined your metaphor to Lotus and not to British more generally. The British have produced Rolls Royce and Bentley, two manufacturers that notoriously have produced overweight automobiles (with exceptions, of course).

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I am not being harsh here as I am not a mathematician - IMHO you could not be more wrong :astonished: - 19.5% of the adult population are obese however this rate ranges from less than 6% in Korea and Japan to more than 30% in Hungary, New Zealand, Mexico and the United States. More than 25% of adults are obese in Australia, Canada, Chile, South Africa and the United Kingdom.

IMHO - A clear picture emerges in my mind of where the problems are located and their occurrences. Currently, 34 percent of Americans are overweight and a separate 34 percent are obese, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

Take myself at 80kg compared to some person at 320kg – okay that’s 400% - massive difference in my reckoning yet you would say “but it’s also not very much at all.”

Take my last motorcycle a CCM R30 Rotax at 130kgs – increase this weight by 400% and you end up with a Honka Lead Wing with luggage – Yuk. Yet you would say “but it’s also not very much at all.” No way Dude; we are talking chalk and cheese. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Pay rises vs inflation: :money_mouth_face: :money_with_wings: :moneybag: With inflation running at 6% we need a wage or pension rise of 6% to maintain our living standard. Stocks and shares, currency, commodities and Cryptocurrencies are watched and analysed 24-7 in percentage terms – so where you get your ideas on percentages I do not know – percentages or ratios are everything. :thinking:

I think you are talking about integers 1, 2, 3, 4 – they are pretty well meaningless except for house numbers, lottery tickets etc until you associate units to them. Let us add megaton to them so we have a 1megaton bomb and a 4megaton bomb – guess you would say of the difference “but it’s also not very much at all.” A 3megaton bomb would make a pretty loud bang :bomb: :boom: in my estimation. Hope that has shed a little light on that 400%…? :thinking: And no Guys - that distro that cannot be named was not stripped down; it had all the usual – Web browser, email, chat, professional writer, picture editor etc etc – more than EnOS offline install has.

So ignoring the cheerleaders for a moment can we get back to the topic – please?

Can any of you offer up something for removal :face_with_monocle: that can be removed Lotus style with sudo pacman -Rs …? Thanks.

Whatever dude. I’m not going to argue simple Math with you.

And there’s not really any topic to get back to. The answer is post 9.

If you need more minimal - Arch is always there.

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Okay you are not liking British guys who succeed, innovate, invent, take world records etc.

That’s okay with me as British success is everywhere to be seen by all at least since 1605 Bacon’s cipher, a method of steganography (hiding a secret message), is devised by Sir Francis Bacon, 1668 Sir Isaac Newton invents the first working reflecting telescope. 1698 The first commercial steam-powered device. 1781 The Iron Bridge, the first arch bridge made of cast iron, is built by Abraham Darby. 1802 Sir Humphry Davy creates the first incandescent light by passing a current from a battery, at the time the world’s most powerful. 1804 The world’s first locomotive-hauled railway journey is made by Richard Trevithick’s steam locomotive.

The list goes on and on. In my part of England we are credited with the highest number per capita of patented inventions in the World.

Okay let us finish off with 1837 Charles Babbage describes an Analytical Engine, the first mechanical, general-purpose programmable computer. The Cooke and Wheatstone telegraph, first commercially successful electric telegraph, is designed by Sir Charles Wheatstone and Sir William Fothergill Cooke.

Something a little more exciting - the Jet Engine, rocket motor, the world’s first electronic digital programmable computer, the concept of microprogramming is developed by Maurice Wilkes from the realisation 1951 that the Central Processing Unit (CPU) of a computer could be controlled by a miniature, highly specialised computer program in high-speed ROM, 1952 The introduction of the de Havilland Comet the world’s first commercial jet airliner.

Autocode, regarded as the first compiled programming language, High strength carbon fibre is invented by engineers at the Royal Aircraft Establishment. The first carbon fibre fabric in the world is weaved in Stockport, England. DNA profiling is discovered by Sir Alec Jeffreys at the University of Leicester. One of the world’s first computer games to use 3D graphics, Elite, is developed. Sir Tim Berners-Lee writes a proposal for what will become the World Wide Web. The following year, he specified HTML, the hypertext language, and HTTP, the protocol. The Touchpad pointing device is first developed for Psion computers. Graphene is isolated from graphite at the University of Manchester.

Where would we be without penicillin :face_with_thermometer: or the MRI scanner invented around the corner from me? :thinking:
Just a small selection - Oh: did I mention Colin Chapman :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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A little touchy on the subject? I was not commenting on everything British, just the fact that Rolls Royce and Bentley made some damn heavy automobiles. Chill dude.
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Probably one of the most unbelievable collection of British engineering ever. I’ll never forget it, it was one of the most amazing bits of TV I’ve still ever seen to this day.

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I hope Lucas did not supply the electrics for any of those vehicles! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

that’s bloat …

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Not at all :slightly_smiling_face: let us remind all of what you wrote :face_with_monocle:

Seems pretty claer to me.

Did not respond to your…

… as it would appear that you had missed the point entirely - we are talking about the Lotus and Arch principle of removing or not including - "to only add what is purposely required.” Resulting in being fast lean and efficient. :slightly_smiling_face:
So to mention heavyweghts is bizarre and pointless IMHO as are some responces here.
Can we get back on track and get some suggestions for Lotus style removal of packages that are not perposely required.

The problem is that nobody is capable of answering your question because we don’t know what you do and don’t require. That is your personal decision.

This topic has been going nowhere for a long time. I think it is time to bring it to a merciful end.

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