So I’ve been loving Endeavour over the last few days and I have this one final problem I need to fix.
Endeavour get stuck when I shutdown or reboot, It simply won’t shutdown when a program is left open such as the Brave browser. However when I close every application open it shuts down/reboots perfectly. Is there a way to make it reboot/shutdown regardless of if I’ve left something opened?
This is probably a stupid question and is more than likely the way Linux works but I’ll ask regardless
Have you tried shutdown using the terminal? Just type this in the terminal and see if it works
sudo shutdown now
or just
shutdown
Supposedly, the recommended way to shutdown in the terminal is
systemctl poweroff
For reboot
systemctl reboot
Pudge
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This is what I use, I have a dmenu script and I select shutdown or reboot and they use the commands systemctl reboot or systemctl poweroff
Upon more testing it seems that this only happens sometimes. Trying to reboot and shutdown with brave open does work sometimes, the majority of the time it would appear, but it gets stuck every so often
to be added… every desktop is using its own way to handle power menu, so would be interesting what Desktop you are using and how you set up power-related settings.
// could be also settings for power-saving disturbing this from Bios/Firmware
My apologies
I am using dwm and the xfce4-power-manager to manage power related settings
I use dmenu and a simple bash script to select power options such as shutdown or reboot
I’m sorry, where are my manners? I just noticed today is your first day on EndeavourOS. 
Thanks for giving EndeavourOS a try, and Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your time here.
Pudge
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Haha, Thanks. I’m honestly really surprised by how friendly this forum here is, it’s quite astounding! Never before have I seen a forum so welcoming 
I’ve used ArcoLinux for about a year and Already in my 3 or 4 days of using Endeavour I can already say that I much prefer Endeavour. My only qualm with it is the way it releases, Releases every few weeks doesn’t fare well when the distro is a rolling release, I installed Atlantis neo a few days after it came out so it wasn’t a problem for me thankfully.
I’ll close this issue for now as it doesn’t seem to be happening anymore, I either fixed it somehow or it’s a coincidence. 
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Do I need to select a reply as a solution in order to close this? I can’t seem to find the Delete button anywhere
Yes, just select a reply as the solution. That will suffice.
Welcome to the purple side 
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The release is simply additions, improvements, and bug fixes in the ISO installer itself.
Once installed, Like Arch Linux, you can run EndeavourOS for literally years by just doing pacman updates. In other words, once EndeavourOS is installed, you can totally ignore ISO releases unless you want to install on a new device, or totally re-install on your device.
I see you figured out the Solution to “Solution” 
Pudge
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What I meant was you would have to download a lot of updates if the last release was around a month ago, it can be a bit annoying for those with slow wifi.
It’s not a big deal regardless though
Not true. If you selected “online” install, Calamares will download every package needed for the install. After an online install, pacman -Syu should show “Nothing to do” .
If you install XFCE4 as “offline” install, then your statement is entirely true. XFCE4 is the only DE / WM that is available for “offline” install.
Pudge
Only if you choose offline install, because the main part of the installs is online where all packages are freshly installed from the internet, and on EndeavourOS the offline installed is more a fallback if you have issues with internet connection or such. All Desktops and Community Editions will be installed already up to date also if the ISO is 3 month old 
Most other Distros only offer offline installers, this is one major difference on EndeavourOS.
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Heh heh, beat ya.
Pudge
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i kind of interrupted you also a little bit here… my fingers wanted to write after some hours in the kitchen 
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That’s the thing though, it’s less about the fact that you need to update after the install, it’s the time it takes. You’re correct to say that there will be no updates available after an online install but the installer will then take drastically longer as a result of updates.
If Endeavour ISOs released more frequently like Arch does it would mean there wouldn’t be as many updates. The Endeavour ISOs won’t need to have anything new in them if there’s nothing currently there to add, but the installation would be faster for everyone
also not
because it does not update the image from the ISO it installs directly with the latest packages, in the same way you would install pure arch.
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Maybe I’m wrong here but I thought that when Arch releases a new ISO the ISO comes with the latest packages, and if you install that ISO when it releases you won’t have to do so many updates
Not true for the ArchISO itself too… only the used scripts are from the ISO you always install by using pacstrap and pacman what is fetching packages directly from the mirrors, only most of the archbased distros using Calamares as an offline installer that uses the ISO image and unpack it to target. We do this only for offline install what does not need any internet connection to run.
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