Endeavour does not offer stable release as other os do?

hii,
i am new to Endeavour os, does it provide download to stable release as well ? or one can only download rolling releases ?

thx

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You can install a LTS kernel which can give you a more stable experience if you prefer.

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EndeavourOS is extremely close to Arch, even using the same repos. The following is taken from the EndeavourOS Wiki:

Close to Archlinux

With the exception for our in-house developed reflector-auto, eos-welcome and the eos-update-notifier, all the packages are directly installed from the Arch repos or the AUR, so there are no customized or modified packages coming from our own repo. We want to stay as close to Archlinux as possible.

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may i know how to do that since there is not LTS version of Endeavour to download ?
is it by download the latest rolling release install it, and then download LTS kernel from within Endeavor ? and switch to LTS kernel ?

there are LTS version of manjaro or any other linux flavor… does that refer to the whole (DE + kernel… ) that is LTS or just refers to Kernel that is LTS ?

Just do sudo pacman -S linux-lts linux-lts-headers and reboot afterwards. Pick LTS on grub and thats it.

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Another way is to use akm app to manage kernels.

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I am afraid this is a bit of misunderstanding.

Manjaro is not a point release OS in the way some other distros are. It has three different branches Stable, Testing and Unstable. The whole OS is Rolling but at different pace depending what branch you choose.

An LTS kernel is something different. You can have one, as has been said, on an Arch-based system which is rolling continuously. Hope that makes sense. Others perhaps could express it better.

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so, when rolling, you actually mean all other stuff apart from kernel right ? because kernel is not “programmed” by the Endeavour programmers , right ?

i don’t know what term to use to express myself, as i am not a programmer nor novice in linux … merely a beginner who started using linux this year.

There are fixed release distros and rolling release distros.

Arch is a rolling release distro, and every distro based on Arch is also a rolling release. This includes Manjaro (all branches) and EndeavourOS.

The difference between Manjaro and other Arch-based distros is that Manjaro has its own software repositories (repos for short), which contain packages built by the Manjaro team. EndeavourOS, like most other Arch-based distros, uses Arch repos directly: there is no middle man like on Manjaro.

Fixed release distros are, for example, Debian (except Sid), and all distros based on it, like Ubuntu, Mint, etc… The difference is that they have OS versions, which signifies the version of the entire OS with all the packages there. So you have Debian 7 (“wheezy”), Debian 8 (“jessie”), Debian 9 (“stretch”), etc… Typically, on fixed release distros, individual packages do not get major version updates independently of the entire OS. They do get minor updates like security fixes.

With Arch (and EndeavourOS) there is no such thing as a meaningful OS version, only versions of individual packages. There is no such thing as Arch 9 or Arch 10. Manjaro tries to fake an OS version (and even has names like Kyria and Lysia), but that is completely meaningless, apart from labelling ISO images. What matters on any rolling relase distro is only the versions of individual packages installed.

On Arch based distros, kernels are just packages, like any other. Manjaro provides a bunch of specific kernel versions as separate packages, while on vanilla Arch (and EndeavourOS) you mainly get linux (which is the latest kernel version) and linux-lts (which is the latest LTS version) in the repos, while specific versions have to be installed from the AUR.

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These links might give you some idea:

https://www.kernel.org/
https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html

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linux-zen and linux-hardened are also in the repo, in the Extra.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels

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Should one prefer the Zen kernel to the normal kernel?

While I appreciate your eagerness to correct me (and you are not wrong about zen and hardened being in the extra repo) you missed the point. Both zen and hardened are the latest versions of the kernel (though hardened typically lags behind a bit). The point is that you don’t have a bunch of specific versions of kernels like on Manjaro as separate packages.

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Not necessarily. It has some configurations which give it better performance mainly “for desktop, multimedia, and gaming workloads” .

https://liquorix.net/

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No. You should prefer that which works better for you. Try them both and see if you notice any difference. If not, stick to Stable kernel (linux).

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Thx @pebcak @Kresimir

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My post wasn’t addressed to you and therefore no eagerness on my part to correct you. It’s only point was to inform the OP of other alternatives and where they can be found.

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There are milestones, or snapshots, but it’s basically a distribution based on a rolling release model.

Endeavor is based on Arch stable. Therefore, this is the stable release.

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The right answer . Mark it solved bro @andrew_ysk

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