OK, it is emacs. The solution I had for Manjaro does not work here. Looking in to it.
2020-07-30 9:21 ➜ ~ ➜ emacsclient -e '(kill-emacs)'
2020-07-30 9:23 ➜ ~ took 1m 30s ➜
Above is the service files method of closing emacs, run from the command line - this is the problem!!