It’s officially here!
“trixie” is now syncing to a mirror near you! Image torrents are up and the bandwidth graphs are looking healthy https://www.accum.se/technical/statistics/ftp/monitordata/ #debian #debian13 #trixie #ReleasingDebianTrixie
Submitted on 09 August 2025 20:03:00
By Anupa Ann Joseph
I’m probably going to shift to Debian in the next few years, it’s known as the “I Have A Job & A Mortgage Linux” for a reason. Insanely stable. Not to say that EOS isn’t, but with gaming far, far less these days, and needing fewer bleeding-edge hardware kernel support, I’m happy to have had the options and choices in a world that’s presenting ever fewer choices in most areas. Congrats to all of you with Debian as your mains, may your upgrades be smooth!
I haven’t done Debian in so long, so I’m not sure this is accurate anymore.
However, it always seemed to me (back in the day), it was just better to expect to reinstall when a new major release came out. Upgrades sometimes went ok, sometimes not, and usually left quite a bit of cruft/trash behind.
Depending upon your usecase @canoe, it may be more trouble to stay with Debian than a real rolling release ;0
I might get to vanilla Debian in the future, once I don’t have time to properly maintain Arch/Endeavour.
I don’t think it will happen soon, although Debian has a sweet spot in my heart, along with MX as probably its best derivative.
in my hopping (or hobbying) I did try Bookworm 12 for a few days. It was solid and plain as Fedora was when I was running 37-39..
..maybe too solid and plain…or maybe I was not solid and plain enough 
either way I wasn’t feeling it. I wanted to. You know how that goes. I know it has a solid reputation, earned.
I hear you on that one.. I just tested the Live KDE image, and frankly, for my build, it’s flawless. It’s very, very tempting to switch, but EOS is just smooth as silk right now and I don’t have the mental bandwidth to start shifting over (hey it’s that work thing again.. pesky 60 hour weeks..). I’m running a 7800x3d and a 6700XT, coupled with 64GB of memory, and everything flies. For now, EOS stays! If I had a personal laptop? Yep, absolutely would be Trixie!
Care to explain this ? I don’t have any problems with my games.
I did a backup of home . . .
Then it was basically make sureeverything was completely up to date. Changed sources from bookworm to trixie. Full-upgrade. Process took maybe 15-30 min (I didn’t sit here for all of it). updated to the new apt sources. cleaned orphans and updated extentions. Probably 30 min total. Everything seems tobe working still and I’m good for another coupel years it seems 
I don’t think you fully understood the post. I stated that I’m gaming far less, and don’t need bleeding edge kernel support as my hardware isn’t current gen. Does that settle your hackles? 
As a former Debian testing user (for almost 9 years), I would not go back to this distro or any distro, because of the AUR. And as long as your system is not “exotic”, Arch and derivatives are rather stable for a desktop environment.
The AUR is fantastic, no question. No one else has it, and it’s absolutely fantastic.
Then i misunderstood indeed. From my understanding you had a better experience on debian then on endeavour 
Seeing as how the first update to 13.1 is slated for September 13, 2025, I might just wait till then. I like to let the first point release come out before committing to the upgrade. I will certainly try it in a VM this weekend. Always love a new Debian release!
Could not agree more. Another major reason for me is apt; for me, pacman is a must-have.
This should be among the top reasons anyone uses Arch or a derivative.
If you dont like pacman then why use any Arch system?
Certainly for me it is hands down the best package manager available .. though I admit I have not tried them all.. not sure I have used zypper ever, for example.
zypper is OK, similar to dnf (both rpm front-ends). I actually still prefer plain-old rpm over any wrapper I’ve used.
My comment on apt was because of my disdain for it; gotta be the slowest package manager I’ve ever used.
If you only need it 3-6x per year though. . .
I always find in curious that people on an arch based distro, rarely consider using debian test or unstable. Personally I only use debian unstable or an arch derivative. But then I’m old, opinionated and unreliable ==> never trust anyone over 70.
Before I dumped all of my VMs and went straight EOS/bare metal, I ran a Debian Sid KDE system for a few years and really liked it (excepting apt, of course). It was still fairly behind, though: kernels, Nvidia drivers, and KDE always lagged more than I thought a testing distro should.
