Considering Moving to Ubuntu

I strongly disagree that there’s no point asking. Getting a variety of opinions and experiences is exactly the point. It saves me time, points me toward things I wasn’t aware about, and informs my decisions for what to try, test, or research more.

And if it wasn’t already clear, I think this conversation has already been fairly played out, and I have an idea of where I am going to go next. Windows is not and never will be an option for me. I know it is the easiest “just install it and play” option, but I already made the decision to sacrifice that when I converted 100% to Linux years ago, and I never want Windows to touch one of my devices again.

I will test out Nobara, and if anything, I may learn what kind of changes Nobara makes for better gaming so that I may apply them on EOS. I am also interested in testing out Fedora more after a lot of the positive comments about it, but I think I am leaning towards staying with Arch for my main OS.

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I’ve had Ubuntu running on our gaming setup here for a year now. Same install from 23.04 to 24.04 after 2ish months on Fedora. I was running default Ubuntu 22.04-22.10 before that. That year has made me appreciate the experience of setting things up manually from something like Debian or Arch, as a lot of the “convenience” features haven’t been all that great for me.

  • custom kernels and NVIDIA drivers are finicky. even with the convenience of ubuntu-drivers I’ve had to boot into compatibility mode and fix things the not-convenient way more than a handful of times.
  • Snaps are a pain at worst, and some extra work to remove at best.
  • Aptitude has been far more volatile compared to my experiences on Debian and Mint (running on a second drive in the same machine). I’ve had to purge, clean, reinstall, etc. for updates/upgrades to work on multiple occasions.
    kubuntu is cool

YMMV based on what games/hardware/etc. I’d agree with recommendations for Nobara as something that “just works.”

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There’s still too much maintenance. Manual interventions, etc. Anything more than just click update, and it’s a no go.

No terminal.

Everything is done in the software center.

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I had this issue too when I started attending University. Some of the Software I needed to use just wasn’t available on Arch and trying to manually install them was a pain the ass.

I compromised and I now use Fedora for a lot of my work laptops. It’s still quite up to date to most technologies, has great support (RPM) and is quite barebones and basic out of the box.

I think it’s a good middle ground between wanting a stable system but still wanting up to date applications. And the little to no bloat stock Fedora comes with is an added benefit.

I’ve tried Nobara before. It seems quite decent but the default install is quite heavy, and a bit too much for my laptop. Compared to Stock Fedora, it was qutie slow and laggy. And at the end of the day, Nobara is just Fedora with a lot of custom Tweaks by GE(love that man), which you can choose and do on your own depending on your use case.

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This is lazy and may end up not working very well. It really depends on what kind of opinion you want.
Maybe it helps to filter a little, but still, you’re only going with supposed common sense that may not necessarily apply to you.

To each their own. I disagree, and I never said I take everything I read from other users at face value. It informs my next steps and research; it doesn’t replace it.

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Isn’t it has always been the case since 1980? When did that stop general masses from using Windows?

“Saying Windows is Good”, nobody is saying that. That’s your imagination. My argument is: “Windows is necessary to play games at the highest level of support”.

I don’t care about perpetuating nobody-cares cycle.

I don’t like speaking like disgruntled sears employee, but I don’t want to yap about “I use linux because I care about Privacy” when all you have done is compromise. The same as anybody else.

So until you ditch Phones completely (Made by corporation, and can be easily planted with tracker with or without software driver) and using GNU approved distro like Trisquel (which has the correct ideology of Security-first focus and Free Software focus, because installing Steam is a compromise) - I don’t and I will not take any of “I care about privacy” arguments seriously.

So yes, until you live like Richard Stallman, you are not “Security enthusiast”, you’re Compromiser, like everybody else.

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Check out the distro that got me into linux → they even have a Debian based edition instead of Ubuntu:

The only 3 distros I use anymore are: Arch, Fedora and Debian. Everything else is pretty much a spin off of them anyways.

I’ve also heard lots of good things from folks I trust about or personally had good experiences with: Linux Mint, PopOS, SolydXK, and SparkyLinux.

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Security is a spectrum. Some post their passwords to PasteBin every day. Some have a sha512 checksum memorized as their password. Some, like you and I, are in the middle. Security was never a binary 0 or 1. I never said I was a security enthusiast, btw.

It’s hard to recommend anything that’s amazing for one specific use case but then turns around and does fscked-up stuff to your personal information. The average consumer just doesn’t know enough to care. Linux just isn’t mainstream enough to be used by the average user, and the Steam Deck is a good step, but not enough. Windows is also just slow, and it’s been shown that Linux can outperform Windows in Windows games.

Isn’t it has always been the case since 1980? When did that stop general masses from using Windows?

Windows 1/2/3.x was not spyware.

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Not in gaming it’s not. It’s objectively a better gaming experience overall in Windows 10 or 11, and I’ve been using Linux for 15 years.

And No, it’s not slow, “Linux can outperform Windows in Windows games” are largely a myth and hearsay which keep repeated, until somebody actually tried using Linux and found that it’s mostly objectively sucks outside of playing old single player game.

And I do not care about the perils of Linux and the usual security paranoia rhetoric.

If you care about privacy in the internet. Simply not upload your information on the internet. 0 risk. You will never have to worry about “Privacy” ever again, because you are staying private. It’s binary choices. Choosing not to do so is a compromise. Unrelated to level of privacy tolerance which you seem trying to discuss here, which I also do not care.

Agree I put it on par with most games I play but with slightly more difficulty to setup (or some times a real PIA)

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Mint was my first distro too :slight_smile: Would probably still be on it if they supported KDE (and therefore HDR)

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Try sparky.

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Simply not upload your information on the internet.

Then get off this forum. Your browser just made a request to Google or Mozilla.

It’s objectively a better gaming experience overall in Windows 10 or 11,

When your game runs slower on Windows because it dedicates resources to telemetry, I don’t think so.

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That’s a pretty ESP statement :grinning: Not all browsers are calling home to MS, Google and Mozilla.

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Yes and if they are on EOS they are 99.9% there! :wink:

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I doubt that’s what he meant by that.

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