So I’m just wondering, how can a person install something from the community edition and at the same time things from the official stuff?
For example I’d like to install KDE and at the same time install Linux-Zen Kernel?
This is my second time trying EOS btw, I usually just use arch itself (archinstall) but had bugs with it and Ventoy (weirdly enough). I vaguely remember no community editions but maybe I’m wrong it definitely was before atlantis.
Hi, welcome to the forum!
In this specific example, the easiest thing to do is to install EndeavourOS with KDE. And when you’re done installing the OS, you can always later install the Zen kernel in addition to the mainline kernel.
On your installed system (not on live image) run:
sudo pacman -S linux-zen linux-zen-headers
This strategy works in general, you can always install additional packages on your installed system. However, if you install multiple DEs (which typically consist of many packages), there might be conflicts.
Thats what I did already but I wonder why is that the case? why isn’t kernel an option in the official installer?
Even archinstall (the guided installer for arch) allows you to choose a kernel before installation, why is EOS a downgrade in this regard? I
There are two Kernel options in the Enos installer.
The normal kernel and the LTS one. You can manage all of these kernels using akm package
It’s not.
If you really want to install it during the installation process, you can do that, too, by writing the additional packages into /home/liveuser/user_pkglist.txt and running the online install.
However, once you have a bootable system, you can install whatever you want, including additional kernels. So, there is no reason to install it during the installation process, especially if you are doing an online install.
EOS installation is not meant to result in an OOTB system, it gives you a minimalist, vanilla Arch system, ready for you to make your own.
It is the first step, the second step is you setting up your to your liking / workflow / preferences.
Arch is a rolling distro, you should only have to install & set it up once, then you maintain it indefinitely as a continual flow of updates roll through.
This is a good thing, not a downgrade.
Install is simpler, there tends to be less installation issues (nvidia driver bull
aside), and you get a bootable system sooner to configure and setup.
No two systems are the same. What you want in the installer, others don’t … it soon becomes a mess.
Limitations of Calamares and/or just unnecessary. Most people don’t use zen, the amount of work to include it probably isn’t worth it for the few who want it.
In general, if you know you want zen, you also know how to install it. It takes like 2 min post install, and then you’re all set.
Calamares can handle it, have you tried the Arco Linux (D?) installer … so many package options to choose from in a glut of different categories.
This.
No. I went to try it one time and they had like 800 different iso. A B D something something. After 10 minutes I gave up and decided it’s too complicated for me to try.
D stands for you Decide what to install … I think.
Similar to EndOS online installer, but with a million ( 
) more options.
Arco has 1 main installer (fully setup XFCE and i3 and Openbox together). The B sets are to build your own ISO, and the D are a bare-bones install, and scripts to set up your DE etc. Can be a bit bloated, but works pretty well…and comes with the arch-based world’s most confusing website(s)… 
The D installer is like the EOS online installer, but with many more options. Both give you the ability to install really minimal systems if you wish.
I don’t understand how in the world that website is designed. I got lost and then realized I was on a completely different domain from clicking through the tabs.
But I do have Arco on my install list at some point in VM.
Btw Eric one of the maintainers have lots of useful videos on YouTube and great way to increase knowledge.
Looking at his output and regular workload is one of the wonders of the world! Arco was my first step into Archworld (along with an Arch way install) and you can certainly pick up a lot of information that way - including how to theme things, and how to utilize aliases for fun and profit Not to mention little things like turning on more cores for some tasks and so on…
I’m here, not there - but as a showcase or stepping stone it is very impressive!