…is coming soon
From my fav Greek python expert dev twilight0
…is coming soon
From my fav Greek python expert dev twilight0
I wish luck and lots of days without headaches to the guy/team behind it. I will stick with Fedora KDE, though.
I wish luck and lots of days without headaches to the guy/team behind it. I will stick with endeavourOS GNOME, though.
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Edit: Is Mister Trees somehow related to Doctor Bees?
As long as they having fun and learning something good on them. I don’t see any reason for me to switch up what I use though.
I always wonder about the people who make a distro “for devs”. If someone is smart enough to be a developer, don’t you think they can customize their workflow on any old distro by themselves?
You know how many developers use Macs or if they use Linux, it is often something like Ubuntu LTS? Being a developer doesn’t necessary mean that they are willing to do the work. Even within the Linux ecosystem, Linus Torvalds, the head honcho of the entire thing, ultimately uses Fedora on his main development computer, simply because he needs something that gets out of the way of him actually doing his work.
EndeavourOS is, also, just Arch, but with a few custom things added on top that many users might have done themselves, but having someone else do it for them makes things a whole lot easier and pleasant, so they can focus on their own problems and usage.
You can also build a desk, but you choose someone else to do it instead, so here you are, using EndevourOS, who someone else build it for you to enjoy.
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My apologies. I was a bit too concise and left too much room for misinterpretation, which led you to misinterpret my thoughts. My fault.
In your rebuttal though, you make my intended point for me.
Fedora is “any old distro” which he then customizes for his own workflow. This is the point I was trying to make. He doesn’t use a distro “optimized for devs”, he uses an off the shelf distro.
I’ve never met, seen, or even heard tell of any two devs who use the same workflow, the same tools, the same way of thinking. It’s all highly personalized.
It just seems to me that to make a distro “optimized for devs” misses the point that devs are more like artists than ordinary staff. With ordinary staff you can dictate workflow, tools and so forth. Both artists and devs are, in the current parlance, “highly opinionated” about what they use and how they work. They refine their workflow and tools just as much as they refine their craft.
To think that one’s own preferences for a optimized development environment are universal enough to build a whole distro around them seems even more opinionated than their target segment. A fool’s errand.
Ah… well… I now feel like an idiot, but I see your point.
I have no need to “remind” someone, when it’s ready I will publish it, as I wasn’t the one who brought the hype in here.
I am still putting the essential pieces together and this is the important step, then it has to be the extensive testing etc. I always care about user experience and I don’t want to wake up in the middle of the night when someone finds a bug and complains about.
This isn’t even an alpha, so even the developer-optimized key point is not even as established as one can think.
You (or others so don’t take it personally) always customise any distro to your liking even when not being a developer, so you still miss the point.
The point is that I want to deliver something I ve envisioned and if someone finds it useful, I am more happy than ever. This has always been the case for many projects like this one.
I wasn’t complaining or being disparaging—I haven’t created s&*# as far as an OS. I can’t wait to see it. My sentiment was when the drum-roll-please ends come get me. You should be glad there’s a buzz here; I would be.
I’ve been shopping lightweight Arch’s quite recently. (I have a thread from last night).
PS–that was a great Pink Floyd album; maybe the best
Well, lots of good luck to you with this project and others in the future! ദ്ദി( • ᴗ - ) ✧
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Some would say The Dark Side of the Moon is the best. I couldn’t disagree.
However, personally speaking, I listen to the Dark Side with my head but I listen to Wish You Were Here with my whole body. I prefer the latter.
PS. @twilight0, Good Luck!
Ah. So you’re the dev optimizing for other devs. Thanks for joining in.
I actually get what you’re trying to do: uncomplicate and speed up initial system setup for other devs. I think it’s a worthy goal. I also think it’s not achievable due to every dev working differently. As a broad example, gaming devs are an entirely different sort than database application devs (which is my background). Meeting the needs of each becomes like herding cats, sort of.
I have a eight-page document detailing each step of customizing a base Arch install to make it feel like home. It has branches for Manjaro and CachyOS. It originated as the traditional handwritten admin’s notebook, but as with those things, it became unwieldy, thus an editable document. As ISOs change, my needs changes, and my tastes change, I alter it. I would script the whole mess, but I make alterations in real time in response to those changes, so it wouldn’t be practical. IMHO. In any event, it reduces a days-long process to about three hours.
I was able to strip it down from a much larger document (and process) when I switched to Arch, largely because I didn’t have to remove so much fluff and bloat, and then I didn’t have to search for and compile things that weren’t in the distro’s repos. Which is why I think I’ve found my home in Arch after over 40 years. So if not in its entirety, I may see your point better than you think.
Developing a distro is a tough job. Making it successful is even harder. Keeping it going harder still. But, it’s also a huge feather in one’s cap.
I was always more motivated when told something couldn’t be done. Maybe I just like saying “eff you, I did it” too much. But those were also the times when I succeeded best. So if it works for you, circle back to the third sentence of my second paragraph. Using that, perhaps you’ll be able to tell me, “Eff you, I did it”.