If no one’s able to help me then I guess I’ll reinstall the entire system but I’m worried I’ll run into the problem again by the end of the day if I haven’t heard back from anyone I’ll just try to reinstall
I think I have to chroot into the system from reading other forums but idk how to even do that to well
I gave up I’m reinstalling my system now it sucks what a son of a b**** lol I’ve been trying to fix it all night long and all morning long and I’m sick of it I’m just going to reinstall
Elementary OS and EndeavourOS didn’t work with it either so I’m returning the computer to best buy I can’t have Windows on it I just can’t
Luckily when I bought the computer the guy told me it was returnable within 2 months. Still in good condition so this weekend I’m going to go back there with my dad to Best buy and try to return it. Hopefully they don’t give me a hassle about it. I even told the guy when I bought the computer though that I was going to put Linux on there and he didn’t mention any of these issues but they probably weren’t very informed employees.
Both elementary and endeavor both loaded to blank screens eventually with the keyboard flickering on and off
I’m sticking with my old computer for now plus it was a bad idea considering I need to do house repairs more importantly than any new piece of technology that I don’t need right now. I just couldn’t figure out how to make either operating system work that are Linux based distros
chroot is relatively straightforward and you should take the time to learn it since it’s a common way to troubleshoot boot issues on arch based distros. I don’t think you should stick with nouveau, there’s a solution to this, if you’re set on reinstalling, try to boot the install medium with proprietary drivers and have them installed with the os when you set it up.
I remember having a problem where nvidia-dkms only worked with lts kernel (should work with latest kernel too), and the nvidia (non-dkms) package only worked with the latest kernel (normal).
You could be experiencing that.
Maybe try something like nvidia-open on latest kernel, that should absolutely work unless ur using a rly old nvidia gpu.
thankx for the tech wisdom i really appreciate it i will do as you say the best i can resintalling now and getting all the drivers with this command: sudo pacman -S nvidia-dkms nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils nvidia-settings
im actually installing them along with the system now
hopefully fingers crossed this works and i don’t load to a blank screen again
oh i am getting nividia-open too! thankx MAYBE THIS WILL WORK
There is a trick you can use to avoid getting locked out.
/etc/kernel/cmdline is your main/default kernel commandline settings.
/etc/kernel/cmdline_fb is your fallback kernel commandline, and it’s what gets used if you boot in fallback mode (the idea is similar to windows safe mode, but not quite the same)
You could use this technique to blacklist the nvidia driver modules (modprobe.blacklist=nvidia_drm,nvidia_modeset,nvidia_uvm,nvidia) which should allow you to still boot into fallback mode if your nvidia driver is crashing your pc on bootup.
This would allow you to troubleshoot the issue without relying on chroot.
Since nouveau tends to get blacklisted (under aforementioned /etc/modprobe.d/ configs) automatically upon installing nvidia drivers, at least on endeavouros, if you had only an nvidia gpu then you would have to undo that and blacklist it from the cmdline instead in order to be able to still run the nvidia gpu in fallback mode on nouveau
However, since you’re on a laptop, I bet you have an igpu, and that’s for sure not an nvidia gpu, which would mean that if both nouveau and nvidia are blacklisted you will run all graphics on the igpu instead, which should be sufficient for your purposes.
I think I got it working but I don’t know what I did to actually make it work I will post that this is the solution even though I don’t know what the solution was if it continues to work without freezing
So far no freezing I’ll let you know though after a day or two
I wish I knew what I did this time to make it work
I know I went into LTS instead of the arch kernel but I don’t know
Yes it’s absolutely running flawlessly now I don’t know why I did to fix it though or how to make it work that’s kind of the bummer of the situation cuz if I have to reinstall I’m not going to know what I did but for now I’m golden. For all intensive purposes it seems solved now though but I’ll let you guys know in a couple days whether it freezes again or goes to a black screen. Setting up KDE now as we speak it’s going to take forever to get my system set up the way I like it but I’m going to do it tonight.
It’s very likely that, since you set the pc up the first time without nvidia drivers, and installed them afterwards, you installed them wrong somehow, maybe you had the dkms/non-dkms issue i pointed out, maybe it was something else.
But then you reinstalled the os and had the installer handle installing the nvidia driver for you, and it, of course, did it correctly, so no problems now.
I don’t know how to say this I don’t have the heart to tell you cuz I know you’re excited about me actually fixing my computer but it turned out I was booting into the live CD and just being stupid I’m tired I’m so sorry I gave you false hope and I don’t know what to do after installing the Nvidia drivers Everytime my computer loads to black screen I’m giving up for tonight I’m so sorry for giving you false hope again
Of course the live CD was working so I was like just messing around in there I’m so stupid I’m such an idiot
Literally I am pretty dumb I I’m sure this issue can be resolved I just don’t know if I have the intelligence to do it
I’ve been trying all night long though and I’m just tired I’m going to give up for now
I literally just reinstalled the whole system like multiple times putting the drivers on every single time and I keep doing the same stupid thing over and over and it just keeps loading to a black screen
Again I’m really sorry for my goof and getting your hopes up. I could tell you were really happy for me which is a huge letdown for both of us
PS: Oh when I don’t install the new video drivers it also freezes when I install the NVIDIA drivers it completely loads to a black screen just for your information
Either way it’s a lose-lose
I’m sure there’s a way to do this like you’re saying to I just don’t think I’m smart enough to do it and I’m still thinking about returning it to Best buy in 2 months at least I might give it a few more tries and f*** around with it some more before then
From the bottom of my heart and soul thank you for helping me though all of you it really means a lot I mean no one else who goes out of their way to help me out this much in real life lol
My brother’s pretty good computer with computers but he won’t help me and he’s good with Linux but I don’t think he’ll help me and then my friend who’s a Buddhist is an IT who fixes Linux computers but I still don’t think he’ll help me so you guys have been most helpful
Mad respect to all my purple peeps on here
going to sleep now sweetdreams thankx again for your help maybe tomorrow i will mess with it some more again
Well that’s unfortunate, it could be that the laptop is simply faulty, this isn’t normal behavior but it’s been known to happen with misconfigured graphics drivers in the past.
If you want to check if the nvidia gpu will run at all, just use the live cd environment, boot with proprietary drivers (should get an option for it on boot), then see if you can use ur nvidia gpu properly with tools like prime-run, vkcube, glxgears and perhaps mangohud; just to confirm that the driver is actually installed and working on the live cd in the first place.
If it can work there, that’s confirmation that it can work after installing as well.
Okay so like I managed to get the NVIDIA drivers on there which still causes the computer to go black in the Linux kernel BUT in the linux-lts kernel it loads fine but with no ability to see my wireless network though unfortunately. I know my wireless is on and working but I can’t get EndeavourOS to see my wireless. again that is in the linux-lts kernel the regular kernel just Linux goes to a black screen when loading off I think the whole thing is a headache lol
I got the nividia video drivers on there the regular kernel doesn’t work and the LTS kernel has no wireless
The LTS kernel is working with the NVIDIA drivers but there is no wireless
If anyone has any suggestions how to get my wireless so that I can see my wireless or whatever that would be a huge help in the LTS kernel
I tried googling why wireless doesn’t work on endeavor os’s site and I couldn’t find much information that would help me everyone’s solution didn’t work for me
They work on the live install when I had the live install I installed the new video drivers and it worked so there must be a solutionthere must be a solution
Also I was wrong the LTS does work but has no internet but I do not have the NVIDIA drivers installed
The weird thing is I installed the NVIDIA drivers on the live usb but then when I rebooted apparently they weren’t there anymore
You’re right though if it works sometimes it should work all the time or there should be a solution or something because in the LTS kernel I seem to have no problems
I tried to install r8168-lts no luck without an internet connection I wasn’t able to install it