A reminder why Apple sucks (too) 👎🏾

[peciwov]

To be fair, I’m not certain exactly what regulations dictate.
So I’m not saying it 100% was the case that EU blocked it, just that it could be the case AND be a reasonable requirement (in the context of pro-consumer EU regulations).

I do remember an interview of Maltese EU Politician talking about the discussions with Apple about USB-C, characterizing the possibility of a dual-product with suspicions of EU getting an “inferior” one.
Think similar to what they tried to do (or actually did? Not using Apple so I didn’t follow this issue to the end…) with the “USB-C cables”, where using a non-Apple cable would only get you a fraction of data-speed and/or charging-speed (unrelated to actual cable capability and compliance to the USB-C specification, and more similar in essence to their move of limiting batteries some years back “for the benefit of the users” which led to lawsuits that Apple eventually had to settle!!).

In such cases, the EU could argue that even though Apple ends up obeying EU legislation by offering a compliant version, it does so in a “malicious compliance” kind of way by producing a second product that it’s not ACTUALLY on par with the original.

[MarkMcCoskey]

The only Apple device I’ve owned was the iPhone 3G, that in order to use it, I had to Jailbreak and Unlock so that it could be used on my T-Mobile network. Seems like there was a way to get alt store and apps loaded, but I saw that this was going to be a neverending hassle, therefore, I’ve been using Androids ever since. At least there is SideLoading available. Plus, everything seemed too damn expensive for my taste. I perfer $300 devices spread out over 3 or 4 years.

[ringo]

The right to repair movement can have foot in europe but that roswel indont know how that guy calls repair there in newyork on the youtube channel in eunhe wil get succes because apple produce a lot ewaste also tesla is that sort company that makes ewaste with there propietary stuf… But eu want that basics not every device special cable…

[Archnoob]

Crapple is even worse than Windoze

[anon55503498]

[winnyace]

@drunkenvicar

I had to use it extensively for work for years. It’s cute. I get the appeal.

I actually can’t really see it. I haven’t used a Mac or iOS device mostly because they’re extremely expensive and I don’t like Apple’s BS. I guess the polish on their devices is what is appealing?

[drunkenvicar]

@winnyace

I guess the polish on their devices is what is appealing?

It has koolaid appeal

[TheUnknownCynic]

Apple is, almost without question, a cultist (virtual) “community”, seemingly capitalizing on peoples’ inclination (or fear-driven predilection) to resist change and/or question their base’s dictums (axioms) — for profit. This is generally an accepted observation, even among the tragically Apple-addicted user base, though they refer to it as “product-familiarity”.

Imagine my surprise in seeing the EndeavourOS blog (virtual) “community” calling Apple out on this account, on the Web.

Suppose I recounted how EndeavourOS supplanted existing IP Tables (et al) with firewalld, without warning, thus exposing those workstations to every script-kiddie whom was capable or downloading LazyScript, Metasploit, Adam and Eve, etc., and following a YouTube instructional video.

Nonsequitor? Quot erot demonstrandum!

Rather a bad case of one cultist community impeaching another, albeit less in a profit-driven environment.

Apple was once a good company, challenging such upstarts as IBM and Microsoft (even with a gift from a Xerox profit division — both the Mac hardware and Apple OS Unix derivative software (windowing, icons and pull-down menus) were a gift from a Xerox division whom resided in the same building as early Apple, if you’re unaware.

In like kind, EndeavourOS was once a good Arch Linux Distro, challenging the likes of Microsoft, Red Hat, Fedora and Suse…with a gift from Linus Torvald and Arch Linux.

Wear it EndeavourOS community…or change it….

[ringo]

I believe ringo means apple in japanese lol…nevermind its just what it is haha

Is also with the tesla cars

[rabcor]

Anyone who believed apple didn’t suck at any point for the past 20 years needed their heads checked, not a reminder. They won’t understand the reminder.

[winnyace]

I mean, they were the ones to pioneer the modern smartphone, but yeah, that is getting close to 20 years.

[nadb]

@TheUnknownCynic

Suppose I recounted how EndeavourOS supplanted existing IP Tables (et al) with firewalld, without warning, thus exposing those workstations to every script-kiddie whom was capable or downloading LazyScript, Metasploit, Adam and Eve, etc., and following a YouTube instructional video.

Lol. Did someone update without paying attention to what was being updated? Did someone fail to read change logs? At some point every one one of those “exposed” workstations had a human operator confirm the update. On arch and arch based distro no babysitting is either expected or provided. If anyone does not get that they should be using a paid for Enterprise distro where you can actually point the finger at someone to blame. So definitely not even close to being the same.

[thefrog]

@TheUnknownCynic

Imagine my surprise in seeing the EndeavourOS blog (virtual) “community” calling Apple out on this account, on the Web.

First this thread was pretty much dead until YOU brought it back to light.

Second what someone chooses to post in the forum is not up to the Developers of the OS. Nor does what someone post represent the Development team. This is a free forum where people come to get answers for issues with their OS some stay seeing that its a friendly community that is willing to take the time and to go that extra mile to assist those in need of help.

@TheUnknownCynic

Rather a bad case of one cultist community impeaching another,

More like a bad case of trolling.

[pebcak]

They are missing the point and that by quite far.

EnOS’ updates will never replace currently installed software on users’ systems.

The switch to Firewalld was made (don’t remember on what ISO release) for the new installs.

[rabcor]

Smartphones started out as PDAs, the LG Prada came first, apple’s sole claim to fame here is that they were the first to market an actually good smartphone which started the trend modern smartphones are still following, but they were far from being the first. Blackberry were probably the ones that truly started the trend, apple just improved on the concept using mostly already existing tech, their real innovation with the iphone was iOS, a proper dedicated smartphone OS, arguably the first of it’s kind.

But iOS sucks, and android sucks too, we need a proper linux for mobile, and we need it last decade.

[Anthony]

@rabcor

But iOS sucks, and android sucks too, we need a proper linux for mobile, and we need it last decade.

So what do you think of Huawei with its HarmonyOS? I heard they’re going to implement their own kernel into the next release by the end of this year.

[rabcor]

I know nothing about it at all except what you’ve told me, but I know enough, it’s gonna be just as bad as the others at absolute best lol.

Android is at least open source so just how bad it is is plain to see for everyone.

[Bink]

@rabcor

apple just improved on the concept using mostly already existing tech, their real innovation with the iphone was iOS, a proper dedicated smartphone OS, arguably the first of it’s kind

I was using Symbian OS on a Sony Ericsson (touch screen, apps), before iOS existed. I’m sure there were others (Palm OS, BlackBerry OS, etc).

With Apple, it’s never really that they “did it first”. It’s simply that they did it, and the Apple fanbase responds. They have a power to change sentiment in a way that other industry leaders have not been able to.

Apple says they’re going to ditch their PowerPC processors (2005 - Mac transition to Intel processors), and transition immediately to Intel based x86, requiring refactoring of OS, build tools, and all applications from the bottom up - the industry followed.

Now again they’ve been through this process, ditching x86 and transitioning to ARM! The industry again, follows.

Apple is uniquely positioned to be able to pull off stunts like that.

[Bink]

HarmonyOS is closed source (with open source components), so no real appeal there. I would personally avoid anything Huawei (for reasons loosely summarised here).

[winnyace]

Why does Android suck exactly?