A discussion on the ownership of (digital) intellectual property

Then you’re the only one…

I very much doubt that, too. But even if I were, that wouldn’t necessarily make me wrong.

Truth is not a matter of vote.

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Computer code == NOT VALID Writing it down with paper and ink == VALID
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Ok then… Please leave me alone now.

Computer code is just a sequence of zeroes and ones. It’s just a big number. Who can own a number?

You can own a hard drive that contains that number written in it. You can own paper where it is written on. But the information? It cannot have an owner. It cannot be stolen, copying it does not deprive anyone of it. It cannot be consumed, it can be used infinite number of times. No two people can get into conflict over who gets to use it, since they both can use it at the same time. It’s not tangible, it’s just an idea.

You’re dismissed.

You’re ignored

Hippity-hoppity…
YOUR SOUL IS MY PROPERTY!!!111
:fire: :japanese_ogre: :fire:

Just look at that hardcore :clown_face:tube propaganda! :rofl:
Even has direct threats of violence :joy:

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yt-dlp clearly haven’t seen any of that :rofl:

P.S. Comments turned off…of course they are :joy:

There was an earlier comment about how, in the music industry, musicians often build on each other’s ideas. The documentary I was looking for on this was “Echo in the Canyon”. This is how growth can be enhanced when the creators agree to share amongst themselves. (it might still be on Netflix)

I’ve seen this doc, nice one.

Yeah, but same as well as when they don’t…modern music wouldn’t exist without lack of such consent.

Sampling vinyl wouldn’t create hip-hop, breakbeat, techno, a lot of alternative rock, you wouldn’t know The Prodigy and pretty much all of the modern electronic sound, we’d still listen to Kraftwerk synths and probably would die from boredom if some days back few african american gentleman wouldn’t forget to even think about thinking and give a flying f**k while sampling some funk and r’n’b vinyl classics and start a musical and cultural revolution. :laughing:

Since then all this “laws” are trying to make some bs arguments like “sampling for 6 seconds is legal”, give me a break, that’s such a ridiculous stuff you can’t help but laugh.

I mean seriously, we live in a world, where theoretically you can be sued for using samples of 6.1 seconds :rofl:

:oncoming_police_car: :policeman:

Oi sir! You’re clearly breaking the law here, your sample is too long!

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Some people are just a one track mind. It’s only their view or it’s not real. They call that closed mind syndrome! :tired_face:

Yeah…some :joy:

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Ya …I don’t have any problems with it. :wink: It’s Kde Plasma!

Edit: I’ll rephrase that. It’s EndeavourOS Kde Plasma! :wink:

@Kresimir Was it a coincidence that there was no real response to my new word VALUE?

It is nice to say there is no copyright, but if you want to be fair, you should provide solutions and answers to the consequenses, even if they are not realised by others. You still have to make a complete argument. :man_shrugging:

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Now that’s better! :enos_flag:

With respect, you are completely wrong and out of focus. The conversation has serious arguments and the only problem is with anyone that cannot follow, but still demands the end of the discussion.
I am sorry, Rick. If you can’t follow, it’s OK. Let others continue, please. :man_shrugging:

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Of course and it’s running Wayland on btrfs and grub, I also have no issues with the file system crashing. It’s just awesome.

It’s question of where the power lies. For the movie I referenced, the culture agreed to share and collaborate and that ultimately benefited the art. A creator can choose to do that. The point is that they chose to. The creators “creation” was respected and acknowledged.
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For the record, I’m a fan of collaboration…but with consent.

There is no legitimacy to the arguments. We have laws… they exist. They’ve been here for many many years for a reason and a purpose. The law is used when necessary to protect the rights of the people and reasons they were put in place for.

We make the laws.
We can change them

If you let us discuss and find a better idea for a law. :person_shrugging:

Good luck with that!