# YAD window at login **URL:** \ **Category:** XFCE\ **Created:** [January 11, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177 "2021-01-11T09:43:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/1 "2021-01-11T09:43:01Z")
Did a fresh install today (online install of Xfce) and when I log in I get a small window that’s too quick to get a screenshot of: It just says “YAD” as header and then Cancel and OK, no error message or information. I don’t even have to click on anything, it disappears after less than a second. Edit: Managed to snatch a screenshot: ![Screenshot_2021-01-11_12-28-21](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/b/db1701c8827869ccfd6b7f0231797ce77431c3a9.png) ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/2 "2021-01-11T09:52:49Z")
EndeavourOS welcome uses yad (yet another dialog?) package i think, perhaps it’s bug in welcome ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/3 "2021-01-11T10:21:56Z")
I disabled welcome, didn’t help I’ll try enabling it and then disabling it again maybe? ---
**Author:** ![keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/keybreak/32/9257_2.png) [@keybreak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/keybreak)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/4 "2021-01-11T10:24:33Z")
Not sure, check your `journalctl -p3 -xb` to see if there are some detailed errors / coredumps @manuel @joekamprad should know more ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/5 "2021-01-11T10:26:57Z")
Oh yes. Tons of… something. Here is the relevant bits at the end, I think. It’s what the summarizing says, look at these items. ```auto jan 11 10:34:54 endeavour-xfce lightdm[979]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file jan 11 10:34:55 endeavour-xfce pulseaudio[1070]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit: Unit dbus-org.bluez.service not found. jan 11 10:35:33 endeavour-xfce systemd[1385]: eos-update-notifier.service: Failed at step EXEC spawning /usr/bin/eos-update-notifier: No such file or directory ``` Edit, disabled the eos-update-notifier since i don’t use it, so now down to these two: ```auto jan 11 11:32:25 endeavour-xfce lightdm[976]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file jan 11 11:32:26 endeavour-xfce pulseaudio[1067]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit: Unit dbus-org.bluez.service not found. lines 137-181/181 (END) ``` ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/6 "2021-01-11T11:21:31Z")
It seems the Autostart in Xfce insists to try to run several programs that are disabled? Might be the cause? Blueberry is set to start, but the icon is not there so it doesn’t and therefore fails. Wallpaper-Once runs at every startup for some reason? Welcome is set to autostart despite being disabled? Update-notifier is that EOS-update-notifier (that is disabled and uninstalled) or Pamacs update notifier? ![Screenshot_2021-01-11_12-20-28](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/d/7d048662135c671c15a051bbfd4b958e230e77ff.png) ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/7 "2021-01-11T11:29:42Z")
Managed to snag a screenshot: ![Screenshot_2021-01-11_12-28-21](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/b/db1701c8827869ccfd6b7f0231797ce77431c3a9.png) I also have a coredump every login. ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/8 "2021-01-11T16:23:48Z")
Update: Simply being brutal and uninstalling yad, welcome and reflector-simple removed the message (since yad is no more). Update: Reinstalling any of these causes the error again. ---
**Author:** ![anon53396576](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@anon53396576](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon53396576)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/9 "2021-01-11T16:38:31Z")
This is really not a solution. The real way to resolve this is to ping @manuel and ask him to check on this. You have simply posted a (and not a very good one) workaround for the issue. ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/10 "2021-01-11T18:46:43Z")
Thanks for the thourough investigation! 😅 That little yad window is a known old bug and comes when **session saving** is enabled. At logout it leaves a yad window “hanging around” as a “zombie” for the next session. ![session](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/6/86a26cf0b1f81231c18a80eb5959bab994eae9e5.png) There’s a quick&dirty workaround in Welcome to kill that “zombie” yad window at login, that’s why you may see it briefly at login. > [@Beardedgeek72](#): > > It seems the Autostart in Xfce insists to try to run several programs that are disabled? Might be the cause? These autostarters are in /etc/xdg/autostart. > Blueberry is set to start, but the icon is not there so it doesn’t and therefore fails. This comes from the blueberry package. > Wallpaper-Once runs at every startup for some reason? > Welcome is set to autostart despite being disabled? Both of these apps know by themselves if they are supposed to actually run. So to make all work independently of the DE, this approach was chosen. Probably another solution to do the same would work as well. > Update-notifier is that EOS-update-notifier (that is disabled and uninstalled) or Pamacs update notifier? It is from Pamac. ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/11 "2021-01-11T19:09:21Z")
Thank you, unfortunately that checkbox is NOT checked. I forgot to mention that. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/12 "2021-01-11T19:12:34Z")
Strange. Did you have that enabled before? ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/13 "2021-01-11T19:14:16Z")
No, it was actually the very first thing I checked (I remember this bug, tho the window was slightly different) from… 2019 I think?), but butterfly-brain me forgot to mention it. ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/14 "2021-01-11T19:17:53Z")
When did you notice the extra yad window for the first time? I mean after the workaround was implemented (maybe about a year ago?). Is it a very recent discovery? ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/15 "2021-01-11T19:21:23Z")
Back then was well… back then. This time it was today, after my new install at lunch time. I did two earlier reinstalls within 5 days and neither of them had this problem… ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/16 "2021-01-11T19:22:39Z")
That’s even more strange! 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/17 "2021-01-11T19:23:11Z")
Hang on, testing something. brb asap. ---
**Author:** ![Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/beardedgeek72/32/846_2.png) [@Beardedgeek72](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Beardedgeek72)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/18 "2021-01-11T19:26:56Z")
Okay, weirder! I just reinstalled reflector-simple and welcome (since I don’t use notifier, I use pamac for update checks and package search, although i use terminal for installing / removing packages) No weirdness. HOWEVER; I also had to switch to the LTS kernel since I got Xorg-caused coredumps at login with the latest dkms nvidia drivers (460) today which I also never had before. So, switching to the LTS kernel stopped BOTH the coredumps AND the weird window appearing. So… weirder and weirder, but at least the LTS kernel handles all my hardware just fine so I stick on it for now. ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/19 "2021-01-11T20:30:44Z")
That’s interesting! There are a lot of weird little bugs in the 5.10 kernel. Fortunately they seem to have caused only relatively small and/or annoying issues so far. Surely many of the bugs will be fixed in the near future as the reports reach the kernel dev team. Fortunately we have the LTS kernel available! Let’s see how it goes when 5.10 gets the LTS status in Arch… ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177/20 "2021-01-11T20:34:06Z")
And let’s remember the unofficial LTS kernels by @jonathon > [@Unofficial repo for older LTS kernels](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unofficial-repo-for-older-lts-kernels/8972): > > Older LTS kernels Following on from the above thread, I’m thinking about building I have built LTS kernels from the AUR to make them available in an [unofficial user repo](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories#kernel-lts). My current builds are now available here: [https://repo.m2x.dev/current/kernel-lts/x86\_64/](https://repo.m2x.dev/current/kernel-lts/x86_64/) These are built directly from the AUR packaging files. YMMV etc. This repo has the same [stepped cadence](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/current-daily-weekly-deferred-mirror-setup/6572/5) available as the other repos if you are already using one of those (make sure you don’t mix cadences). How to use Add this to your… [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yad-window-at-login/11177.md?page=2)