In that case, you won’t need the xlibre GPU drivers.
Fedora and Arch are known for embracing everything new, but I have doubts. If Xlibre can find competent developers that actively participate, and maybe another project lead, maybe.
I’m pretty much with Dave Airlie here, who summed up the concerns of many colleagues in a Fedora discussion lately. Apart from whatever one may think about Enrico Weigelt’s person and behaviour, I simply doubt his technical competence.
Quote Dave:
Apart from that, this fork is not something I think Fedora should touch with a barge pole, unless someone competent steps up to maintain it, Enrico is not competent enough to understand the X.org server design, and has constantly shown he misunderstands why the server is built like it is. I’d rather see someone write a from scratch rust X server than see x11libre in it’s current form being exposed anywhere near users..
Just because someone says they are maintaining something, doesn’t mean that thing is maintained.
That said, it’s not our decision. Let’s see what Arch makes of it.
i can make a vm and do a gpu test when i get home
Hi @ajgringo619 , I do not understand, I agree if I use the Nvidia proprietary one (even if in that case that look like I will have to modify the xorg.conf by adding:
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
EndSection
but if I use the open source one (maybe the source is here https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules but I am not sure) or that is xorg-x11-drv-nvidia, is it not build and made to work with xlibre ? Could you explain more, I am not a specialist of X ?
Thanks
This workaround is necessary for the open drivers as well. What I did was create a separate file with printf:
printf '
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "IgnoreABI" "1"
EndSection\n' | sudo tee /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia-allow-nonedid-modes.conf
Have no idea how true this is as I don’t use nor keep up with Fedora but if true could be very interesting
There’s no reason for Fedora to adopt this yet, even in their Rawhide branch. Maybe as an installer option, but not a full replacement.
do think we could do a installer option or not
Maybe we should wait to see what it looks/runs like before we decide to do anything with it at all.
Have been running XLibre release 25 on and off for some time. So far, haven’t observed obvious glitches.
Don’t know how this project will evolve in the future, but I am glad we at least have options when big companies are trying to bury X11 and push wayland to every distro.
What’s next? Maybe a display server written in rust? That would be cool.
Is pop os rust de using a rust one manager in rust
IBM develops Wayland, and that’s why they leave everything to the compositor. They just don’t to deal with it themselves, and that’s why Wayland protocol discussions are infamous for sucking, it’s because big companies (like IBM) don’t have time for this crap. Corporatizing Linux sucks. Linux has been always been about options, and IBM is back-stabbing that part of Linux as we speak, while most of us are blind to this.
I wish success to XLibre. IBM can take XFCE, XScreensaver, functioning global hotkeys, and my Caps Lock LED out of my cold, dead hands.
IBM is not the company I worked for 20 years ago. I was really upset that they let Oracle buy Solaris; in hindsight, they would have killed that long before Oracle did.
Heh .. oh for the good ol days when IBM was the antithesis of evil ..
( Thats sarcasm .. cuz, you know, long before multinational conglomerates were trading ownership IBM was directly responsible for the support of various inhumane programs. )
I think the reason for the proposal was because Fedora is removing X11 altogether.
The idea was likely that this would be a way to keep X around if there was a maintained fork of it.
Ahh, now that makes sense. Considering that Fedora basically RHEL Beta, I don’t like the chances of this ever happening.
I’ll bet dollars to donuts x11 makes it into Debian 14. It’ll be around quite a while still if I were to venture a guess.
You’re probably right, even if everyone else got rid of X11 by 2026, it’d be probably 2030 before Debian does.
Must have gotten speedy in recent years. 