# X11 or Wayland? **URL:** \ **Category:** Newbie\ **Created:** [January 19, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460 "2025-01-19T20:07:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/1 "2025-01-19T20:07:04Z")
Hi everyone! I switched from GTX 1660 Ti to RX 7600 XT GPU and started to think should I switch to Wayland or stay on X11? I daily drive my PC to game, do document related work, programming and sometimes making funny 3D things in Blender. What would you recommend? - Staying on X11 or switching to Wayland? ---
**Author:** ![anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon93652015)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/2 "2025-01-19T20:10:24Z")
Both. I use X11 for work, which includes screen sharing. And I use Wayland for games. In fact, gaming currently works better on Wayland (Hyprland) for _ **my system** _. If you use KDE, Gnome or Qtile, you can have just one DE/WM with both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/3 "2025-01-19T20:11:36Z")
Unfortunately, Wayland vs X11 is a highly controversial topic sometimes. On top of that, the results will vary a lot depending on your hardware and config. I would recommend trying both and seeing which gives you better results. ---
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/4 "2025-01-19T20:12:56Z")
A little question about screensharing. Is xwaylandvideobridge is a thing for now? Like I heard someone was complaining 6 or 7 months ago that discord screen share doesn’t work under Wayland ---
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/5 "2025-01-19T20:13:56Z")
Well I’ve been on X11 for a long time due to my GPUs always were from Nvidia, but now I got an AMD card and I guess I should give Wayland a try 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/6 "2025-01-19T20:14:57Z")
Why not? If you decide you don’t like it, you can switch back. I try it every 6 months or so to see how many of my blockers have been resolved. ---
**Author:** ![anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon93652015)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/7 "2025-01-19T20:15:23Z")
I wouldn’t know. I do screen sharing on X11 only. There are workarounds, but I haven’t tried them because I pretty much only do screen sharing for work. Won’t waste time testing something that isn’t consistent or fully supported. ---
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/8 "2025-01-19T20:16:58Z")
The only things that are keeping me away from Wayland is that tales from forums that Wayland is bad, Nvidia’s isn’t optimized for it and a bad performance of VR ---
**Author:** ![SCORPION2000](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/scorpion2000/32/39398_2.png) [@SCORPION2000](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/SCORPION2000)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/9 "2025-01-19T20:26:49Z")
Does are old! Wayland works great on most hardware today! I run Wayland with Nvidia since at least 1 and a half year No problems in games or anything ells. ---
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/10 "2025-01-19T20:27:23Z")
Do you know any information about current state of VR on Wayland? ---
**Author:** ![SCORPION2000](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/scorpion2000/32/39398_2.png) [@SCORPION2000](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/SCORPION2000)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/11 "2025-01-19T20:29:54Z")
No i don’t have VR set sorry nor any info on that. ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/12 "2025-01-19T20:49:52Z")
The vast majority of those opinions are either going to be highly subjective or based on a single person’s personal experiences. Here is some objective information. The majority of applications work fine on Wayland. However, some either don’t support all functionality or don’t work at all. The same is true is hardware and certain configs. In the end, even if it is a small percentage of applications, hardware or specific use-cases that don’t work well, if you fall into that group, you will have challenges. That is why your best bet here is to try it and see what your personal results are. ---
**Author:** ![Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/werameli/32/106574_2.png) [@Werameli](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Werameli)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/13 "2025-01-19T20:52:53Z")
Based on all answers in that topic I guess I’ll try Wayland on my hardware and make some conclusions about should I switch to Wayland or not. Thanks everyone for answering ❤ ---
**Author:** ![anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@anon93652015](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/anon93652015)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/14 "2025-01-19T20:55:48Z")
You don’t have to “switch” is what we are saying. You can use it for its strengths and use X11 alongside it. ---
**Author:** ![Bink](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/bink/32/87216_2.png) [@Bink](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Bink)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/15 "2025-01-19T22:45:46Z")
Exactly. Some update breaks X11 or Wayland, or some feature (screen cap/share) doesn’t work? Just use the other, no need to add unnecessary weight to the decision 😉 ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/16 "2025-01-19T22:54:51Z")
I’ve been logging into a Wayland session exclusively for well over a year on KDE Plasma. It’s never caused me and problems. ---
**Author:** ![dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@dbarronoss](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dbarronoss)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/17 "2025-01-19T23:02:15Z")
Nearly two years here…and I’ve only launched X11 to test if something worked there that didn’t in Wayland (and the answer has always (except once) been no). ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/18 "2025-01-19T23:04:01Z")
> [@dbarronoss](#): > > I’ve only launched X11 to test if something worked Same here. ---
**Author:** ![Moradur](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/moradur/32/115655_2.png) [@Moradur](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Moradur)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/19 "2025-01-19T23:20:16Z")
I am new to Endeavour OS and just deleted Windows a week ago and replaced it with this really interesting system. I am used to Ubuntu and tried Garuda, but this was a little bit bloated. As I can see I am using Wayland right now and already installed games like Diablo IV which works, when I set the graphics a little bit lower than in Windows. I tried to start the Battle.Net-Launcher with X11, but this did not work. My laptop uses a Nvidia RTX 3060 mobile. Is there a performance difference between X11 and Wayland? ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460/20 "2025-01-19T23:31:06Z")
> [@Moradur](#): > > Is there a performance difference between X11 and Wayland? Sometimes Wayland and Nvidia don’t play well together. It’s very system-specific. If something doesn’t work, or doesn’t work well in Wayland, just reboot and switch to an X11 session to see if that changes anything. [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/x11-or-wayland/66460.md?page=2)