X11 Fails to Start when running from Live USB

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 4:53pm

Loaded latest .iso release on ventoy usb. The live environment starts out to load fine but when it starts to load the x11 to build the window, the service fails and goes into a loop and can only force a reboot. I know Arch will run without issue on this system. This is current config:

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System:
  Kernel: 5.18.6-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.0
    Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.24.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4201
    date: 04/26/2022
CPU:
  Info: 16-core model: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X bits: 64 type: MT MCP smt: enabled
    arch: Zen 3 rev: 0 cache: L1: 1024 KiB L2: 8 MiB L3: 64 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3467 high: 4299 min/max: 2200/5083 boost: enabled
    cores: 1: 3593 2: 3611 3: 2875 4: 3974 5: 3782 6: 3284 7: 3463 8: 3281
    9: 2919 10: 3424 11: 3489 12: 2988 13: 3507 14: 4299 15: 2903 16: 4295
    17: 3639 18: 3652 19: 3491 20: 4014 21: 3067 22: 3268 23: 2987 24: 3152
    25: 3078 26: 3625 27: 2956 28: 3314 29: 3728 30: 3602 31: 4057 32: 3658
    bogomips: 217288
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M]
    vendor: Tul / PowerColor Red Devil driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA 2
    pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1
    empty: none bus-ID: 0d:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73ff class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Ti] vendor: eVga.com.
    driver: N/A arch: Ampere pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 0e:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:2482 class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Elgato Systems GmbH Cam Link 4K type: USB
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-3:2
    chip-ID: 0fd9:0066 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.3 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,radeon alternate: fbdev,vesa
    gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3862x4680 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1020x1237mm (40.16x48.70")
    s-diag: 1603mm (63.12")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: 3-1 model: VG278
    serial: <filter> res: 1920x1080 dpi: 82 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23")
    diag: 686mm (27") modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: DP-2 mapped: DisplayPort-1 pos: primary,1-4
    model: LG (GoldStar) Ultra HD serial: <filter> res: 3840x2160 hz: 60
    dpi: 163 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39") diag: 690mm (27.2") modes:
    max: 3840x2160 min: 640x480
  Monitor-3: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 pos: 2-3 model: Acer EI342CKR
    serial: <filter> res: 3440x1440 dpi: 110 size: 797x334mm (31.38x13.15")
    diag: 864mm (34") modes: max: 3440x1440 min: 720x400
  Monitor-4: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 pos: 3-2 model: VG278
    serial: <filter> res: 1920x1080 dpi: 82 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23")
    diag: 686mm (27") modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT (dimgrey_cavefish LLVM 13.0.1 DRM
    3.46 5.18.6-1-MANJARO)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 22.1.2 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 2-3:2 pcie: chip-ID: 0fd9:0066 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    class-ID: 0102 bus-ID: 0d:00.1 serial: <filter> chip-ID: 1002:ab28
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com.
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 8
    bus-ID: 0e:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:228b class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 10:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-4: Elgato Systems GmbH Cam Link 4K type: USB
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.18.6-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.52 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb
    v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: c000 bus-ID: 06:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp6s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: N/A pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: virbr1 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-6:3 chip-ID: 8087:0029 class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 49.2 TiB used: 1016.38 GiB (2.0%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Sabrent model: Rocket 4.0 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: RKT401.3
    temp: 53.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Sabrent model: Rocket 4.0 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: RKT401.3
    temp: 55.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50
    size: 465.76 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 20WD
    scheme: GPT
  ID-4: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50
    size: 465.76 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 20WD
    scheme: GPT
  ID-5: /dev/sdc vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HUH721212ALE600
    size: 10.91 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    rev: T925 scheme: GPT
  ID-6: /dev/sdd vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HUH721212ALE600
    size: 10.91 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    rev: T925 scheme: GPT
  ID-7: /dev/sde type: USB model: SSK SSK Storage size: 931.51 GiB
    type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0212 scheme: GPT
  ID-8: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Backup+ Desk
    size: 7.28 TiB type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 040B scheme: GPT
  ID-9: /dev/sdg type: USB vendor: SMI (STMicroelectronics) model: USB
    size: 58.59 GiB type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
  ID-10: /dev/sdh type: USB model: Specific STORAGE DEVICE size: 29.3 GiB
    type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0009 scheme: MBR
  ID-11: /dev/sdi model: FILEIO size: 4.55 TiB type: N/A serial: N/A
    rev: 4.0 scheme: GPT
  ID-12: /dev/sdj model: FILEIO size: 2.73 TiB type: N/A serial: N/A
    rev: 4.0 scheme: GPT
  ID-13: /dev/sdk model: FILEIO size: 7.28 TiB type: N/A serial: N/A
    rev: 4.0 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 1.82 TiB used: 1016.38 GiB (54.6%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 299.4 MiB used: 568 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-3: /home size: 1.82 TiB used: 1016.38 GiB (54.6%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-4: /var/log size: 1.82 TiB used: 1016.38 GiB (54.6%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: 44.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 56.0 C
    mem: 56.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
  Processes: 599 Uptime: 37m wakeups: 0 Memory: 125.71 GiB
  used: 9.18 GiB (7.3%) Init: systemd v: 251 default: graphical Compilers:
  gcc: 12.1.0 clang: 13.0.1 Packages: 1566 pacman: 1519 flatpak: 21 snap: 26
  Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.19

Any ideas or thoughts would be helpful…

ivanhoe · July 5, 2022, 5:00pm

secdoc:

Device-1: AMD Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M]
    vendor: Tul / PowerColor Red Devil driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA 2
    pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1
    empty: none bus-ID: 0d:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73ff class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Ti] vendor: eVga.com.
    driver: N/A arch: Ampere pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 0e:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:2482 class-ID: 0300

When the live-iso Grub menu comes up, you have a variety of boot-options to tinker with, regarding your graphics. You might try them out, or even customize them before you boot up the live iso.

Perhaps the one with nomodeset option should give you a start into X11, at least.

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 5:05pm

ivanhoe - thank you for the response. I have tried all the options. I thought it could have been a result of my dual GPU configuration, but the problem occurs regardless of the option selected. I also know the ISO is good, because I used it to install on a KVM guest.

ivanhoe · July 5, 2022, 5:12pm

So your Manjaro system boots with fbdev, vesa …

Sorry, I cannot reproduce this here, nor help you any further.

I’m sure there is going to be help from others running newer machines than I do coming up, shortly! - Don’t worry, you’re at the right place!

Good luck, and welcome to the forum, @secdoc !

ivanhoe · July 5, 2022, 5:28pm

Look here for driver installation first, then…

…you might boot the live iso into a shell… (Alt+F1, or Alt+F2, or Shift+Alt+F…) after NetworkManager is loaded…

…and look into your drivers from the shell…

Just another 2 cents from me.

Again, I think others here might have better, quicker solutions at hand!

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 5:30pm

ivanho - no problem and thank you…I know I may be an outlier…so thank you for the initial assist…

ricklinux · July 5, 2022, 5:43pm

Did you try booting on the nvidia option?

ivanhoe · July 5, 2022, 5:46pm

ricklinux · July 5, 2022, 5:51pm

Ya i saw that but “I tried all options” doesn’t always mean those options. OP could have meant something i wouldn’t even think of possibly. Just making sure they meant that?

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 6:26pm

ricklinux - No worries…it is odd…because it starts out like any other live CD…but the moment it hits the x.org/X11 server component it fails…and goes into a loop…so very odd

ricklinux · July 5, 2022, 6:29pm

Have you tried nomodeset? What about blacklisting nouveau?

modprobe.blacklist=nouveau

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 7:13pm

ricklinux - That is one of the options when starting and I did…I figured I would upload the screenshots of what happens…

ricklinux · July 5, 2022, 8:53pm

It looks like a problem with the live ISO you created on ventoy. If i were you i would not use ventoy. Can you create a live usb with dd or use etcher on Windows or some other method.

secdoc · July 5, 2022, 9:04pm

ricklinux - I will try…

secdoc · July 6, 2022, 3:45pm

Just wanted to give update…I created a USB installer using Rufus and had no issues…so using the ventoy linux app had some issues…thanks for the assist.

system · July 8, 2022, 3:46pm

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