Why use EndeavorOS now that Arch has an installer?

My apologies @ricklinux. I took your post as something different then you intended.

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That looks interesting I guess. I really still prefer the archfi install script for Arch to be honest still. But that full installer just seems like you could end up wit ha bunch of stuff you may not want/need. IMO that’s kind of the opposite reason to use Arch. I’d rather just do the EOS install at that point honestly.

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the best way to get arch linux install
with the packages you want
install arch from scratch
it is not difficult if you bother to read a little on it
but i’m too lazy so i use endeavor OS :wink:

No worries. I thought i would just explain my thoughts. Everyone has their own and I believe in what EndeavourOS started out to do and it has gone beyond that in a positive way. Arch is Arch no matter how you cut it and it shouldn’t matter how you get there. I just think EndeavourOS is the way that helps people achieve that easily in a friendly, community environment that helps people achieve success in their Endeavour!

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Looks like it is about creating a yaml file and pointing it to netinstall.yaml in Calamares netinstall.conf.

It’s what Endaevour does as well. Here’s a link to a forum post: Looks like EndeavourOS is being copied :)

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The ascii-art retro look of the new arch installer inspired feelings of nostalgia. It reminds me of my Commodore-64 days back in the 80’s. Honestly, when I saw the first YouTube video about the arch installer I thought it was an April 1 prank.

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The best part about this, is there’s going to be a bunch of folks who use it, install “Arch” have a problem and then go post on the Arch Forum saying “I installed Arch and I’m having _________ issue.” And they are going to laugh them off the face of the internet. because they didn’t install Arch. . . They checked boxes in Calarmares. Then they will come here and we’ll explain they didn’t install Endeavour so we can’t help them either, and then they will get frustrated and end up installing EOS and then things will work and have community help.

The world is just and right and everything comes full circle. My optimism is in high gear today.

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The Arch community really isn’t that bad. Yes, EndeavorOS is more friendly, but the Arch community will help if one posts on the forum. It could be worse, it could be like the Microsoft forum where the answer doesn’t even address the question.

I don’t understand why the Arch community gets such a bad reputation. In my experience it is the Ubuntu community that is unhelpful, rude, and censor opinions.

The Syncthing community is also top-notch.

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I actually have no idea to be honest. I’ve never ever had interactions there. I just go by what I’ve heard. It’s probably highly exaggerated like all things on the internet, but it’s comical to me at this point.

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answers.microsoft.com : “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here…”

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All you have to do is read al lot of the posts on their forum and you’ll know.

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You mean the ones that go:

obvious noob: I read the Arch wiki on how to do this (link to wiki page), but I don’t actually understand it, can someone explain it to me in simpler terms?
arch snob: RTFM
arch mod: answer given, locking thread.

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The problem with Microsoft is everything is a generic answer for every problem and the fixes usually never work. Most errors even though it’s a different code has the same fix which don’t work most of the time.

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Arch earns its reputation - just not always. Even if you follow the suggestions, show your attempts to fix yourself, provide machine and system specs etc - you can still get attacked! In my case they decided it wasn’t an Arch install (it was), because I had yaourt on it to help with the AUR (I was pretty new at the time) and I got it as .pkg file from an acquaintance!

Eventually I got an a sort of acknowledgement that the reaction was OTT - but still got no help…

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Because Arch doesn’t have a turkey on their forums…

Gobble gobble

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The baked-in Windows 10 troubleshooting assistant is worthless too. It leads in a circle with no solution. Honestly the best place to get help with Windows is on YouTube. I have found videos with solutions to almost every problem I have ever encountered.

These are like comparing oranges and apples​:joy:

Rotten apples! :rofl:

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Fortunately the EOS forum is much more forthcoming in that regard. RickLinux did help me great deal just a few days ago with a problem I would never be able to solve myself:

Even with instructions on how to use the nano editor. :hugs: