I appreciate you taking the time to point to these actual cases @dalto. It’s refreshingly specific 
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I knew all about FireDragon* prior to your first post about it, but I guess it’s good that you posted it here so people can know that there are even more Firefox forks.
That said, like @shuvashish76 said, privacy is an added bonus that normal users may be grateful for. But it is not something they think they particularly require when choosing a browser — if they even choose, as most just use what is installed on their system by default.
Notice I said “think”.
*: I didn’t know that they had switched to Floorp as the main base, however, with some of Librewolf’s privacy settings. Great combo, actually.
PS: Prior to your second post, I downloaded the portable archive and ran it for a few minutes. It looks relatively nice with a dark theme, Dark Reader, and uBlock Origin pre-enabled. The fact that it is so customisable out of the box is great, too. May just keep it for testing every now and then.
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Haven’t used Brave in a few years but wound up giving it another look when I was having some issues with Chromium using Duckduckgo for some entries even when I specified StartPage in the settings (I’ve since sorted that out). Anyway, Brave is a better browser than I remember it. I understand it’s essentially UnGoogled Chromium with their own enhancements added. I’m going to let it run as my default for a while and see what I think of it over time.
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Ads are currently turned off but, given that they’re pretty up front about it and offer to give you a piece of the revenue, I may start running them if the browser seems like the better Chromium based option over all.
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All that being said, I still like the Firefox interface better.
Me too! I just don’t care for all these other browsers and i really just don’t see the appeal in any of them. I use chromium as a backup. I would never use chrome if i can help it and i wouldn’t use ungoogled Chromium or any of these other Firefox iterations.
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Wait…what? I think I was following you up until that point.
Well not that i wouldn’t use it. But just wouldn’t go out of my way to install it verses using Firefox. I just don’t really feel the need. I’m using Firefox with ublock origin and I’m fine with that. What ever tracking goes on I have no idea but it doesn’t bother me. Nothing is interfering with my use of Firefox or affecting my web pages. 
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Well sure, stick to a Firefox base if you can. But considering we are in the “which privacy browser” topic, I would think ungoogled-Chromium would be better than Chromium.
Yes maybe but for the purpose i have it installed just as a back up it doesn’t bother me if i had to use it in an instance. Firefox has never caused me any issues that others seem to have with memory or video or graphical glitches etc. It works perfect on all 5 systems for what i use it for.
Just an update on Brave. Setting up the BAT token thing seems a bit involved and requires setting up an online crypto account with Uphold and they want a LOT of personal data. I’d need to know more about them first.
Firefox remains best overall (IMHO) and privacy/security can be locked down pretty good with a little research. Alas, Chromium is the dominant web engine and, sometimes, the web site just needs a Chromium browser. Brave looks like it could be an adequate replacement for Chromium but it remains “Firefox when I can, Chromium (Brave) when I must”
It’s almost as if these ads are actually just a ploy for you to actually give your data to them for more personalized ads. I know, it’s a big, bold claim, but I find it scummy to add such a thing in your private browser in the first place.
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chrome, edge and firefox are about the worst options, followed by safari, opera and brave. (in that order)
Not sure what to think about vivaldi, know nothing about it.
If you want a privacy respecting browser, you gotta go a bit outside the box, librewolf is likely the best, but ungoogled-chromium is also quite highly regarded.
Brave is quite highly regarded as well I just don’t trust it because they have done shady shit in the past. Also I vaguely recall hearing about the brave browser having ads, it’s quite funny really, an adblock browser that then puts it’s own ads in.
Yeah https://brave.com/brave-ads/
That’s just freakin hilarious man.
Basically, all mainstream browsers are run by companies with suspect motives (money over ethics) and a history of infringing on user privacy.
Librewolf (firefox like) and ungoogled-chromium (chrome like) are the best 2 options I know, but I’m quite interested in the ladybird browser too, hoping it’ll do what it says.
edit: oh geez i didn’t read the dates, this is just beating a dead horse at this point.
Then wth are you even doing in this topic? this is clearly a subject you don’t give a damn about, why are you even using linux in the first place if this isn’t something you care about? It’s literally one of my main motives for using linux at all.; escaping microsoft and apple user privacy infringement.
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There are other reasons to use Linux besides the user privacy aspect of it.
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Did I say otherwise?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Rick was talking about how he doesn’t really care about very private browsers, since Firefox with uBO does what he needs and he doesn’t care that much about the tracking as long as web pages aren’t affected. You came in and you ask him why does he use Linux if he doesn’t care about his own privacy. That’s what I understood.
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or in this case a web browser.
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Well, Brave’s ads are “opt-in” and I’m currently running it without ads. Also, with the advent of Google Manifest V3, adblockers don’t work as well on Chromium based browsers. (Ublock Origin now has a “Ublock Lite” for Chromium based browsers.). It impacts all such browsers, including Brave and unGoogled Chromium. Although, Brave includes it’s own built in ad blocker as well so, that’s worthy of consideration.
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I have been testing out uBOL for some time now and the only downside is the amount of flexibility you have with filters, nothing else is really changed. It does its job just as well as before.
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Firefox focus is general privacy and security. It has enhanced built in tracking protection. It provides a balance between privacy, security and usability. It has support for privacy-oriented add on features such as ublock origin. privacy badger and https everywhere. When configured correctly it can be highly privacy-respecting.
The job it does is more than adequate. I trust it and I’m happy with it’s abilities, functionality, usability, it’s privacy and it’s security focus. You can have your own opinion, your own thoughts… I have mine. Doesn’t make you right doesn’t make me wrong. I just have a different view on all these other browsers. There’s nothing to convince me to want to use any of them. Might as well just use Tor or not use the Internet period. They all may have their own qualities to some about them but there are also many dislikes that go along with that too. I’d rather be satisfied and just use my browser choice for it’s purpose than always trying to find an alternative that isn’t really in the grand scheme of things any different or much better of course in my eyes. All around Firefox does a respectable job and i have no issues with using it whether it’s more private or not based on opinions and comparisons to other browsers.
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I sincerly doubt this. Maybe it was the case back in the time, but nowadays there is not much left.
They do not improve on privacy functions, instead they add more and more anti-privacy functions and things around the browser. It started with pocket, now we have a mozilla-based adnetwork. I do not trust them more than google nowadays.
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