# Whens budgie are going to support Wayland **URL:** \ **Category:** Budgie\ **Created:** [December 19, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159 "2023-12-19T15:53:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mohamad20zx/32/80199_2.png) [@Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Mohamad20ZX)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/1 "2023-12-19T15:53:32Z")
Hello again I just want to know whens budgie are going to support Wayland and switch their base from GNOME To XFCE ---
**Author:** ![pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/pebcak/32/100472_2.png) [@pebcak](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/pebcak)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/2 "2023-12-19T16:15:29Z")
The latest news on Budgie could be found here: [https://buddiesofbudgie.org/blog](https://buddiesofbudgie.org/blog) You could also subscribe to the RSS feed: [https://buddiesofbudgie.org/feeds](https://buddiesofbudgie.org/feeds) ---
**Author:** ![Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mohamad20zx/32/80199_2.png) [@Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Mohamad20ZX)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/3 "2023-12-19T21:42:15Z")
Thanks dude ---
**Author:** ![Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/kresimir/32/73739_2.png) [@Kresimir](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Kresimir)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/4 "2023-12-19T22:05:36Z")
What benefits do you expect Wayland on Budgie will bring to you personally? ---
**Author:** ![Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mohamad20zx/32/80199_2.png) [@Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Mohamad20ZX)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/5 "2023-12-30T17:43:39Z")
Well to be honest just that Wayland is more secure and that budgie is a really great alternative to GNOME Especially since it works better for my middle weight pcs ---
**Author:** ![proficiency](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/proficiency/32/94343_2.png) [@proficiency](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/proficiency)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/6 "2024-01-25T04:14:54Z")
Budgie is so slow on development that they hurdles another distro. Vanilla OS 2 likely won’t have GNOME 45 because Magpie who depends on GNOME’s Mutter hasn’t been updated in Debian Sid. If Debian Sid were to force GNOME 45 update, Budgie will break. I just wish when Joshua Strobl wrote this: [https://joshuastrobl.com/2021/09/14/building-an-alternative-ecosystem/](https://joshuastrobl.com/2021/09/14/building-an-alternative-ecosystem/) – all those years ago, he would have the resources to back his word up. Rumours says they lack Resources. Maybe Budgie enjoyers would be willing to donate. ---
**Author:** ![drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/drunkenvicar/32/112222_2.png) [@drunkenvicar](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/drunkenvicar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/7 "2024-01-25T04:48:56Z")
In deference to your link, the mission/priorities in the Beatrice era are much different now in the post-Beatrice era for reasons that don’t need mention. So the ‘keeping one’s word’ things not real fair imo. Koto, for instance, was always a personal project that was independent of solus or BofB financing. That said I know what you are getting at. Wayland will happen for Budgie and Solus DE’s and there is no clean divorce from the gnome base or gtk. there has to be a middle ground here. gnome and gtk things superior to kde imo. That is the messiest part. His QT explanation (C+) is interesting and I wonder how he feels now. On the other hand Josh’s masterwork (Ikey’s creation), Budgie, is on fire in the Linux world. It’s the best DE (it has a niche like any other de) and people are seeing it. Solus’s future is bright . – Strobl is a forward-thinker and always has been. The merging with Serpent underneath will rock the whole boat, good or bad. Exciting times if you like to see the dice roll. No guts, no glory. Circling back around to your lament about funding. You are right. Also the legion of loyalists that maintain Solus/Budgie/rest of solus DEs all have 9-to-5’s and a life. They go above and beyond. And as a user I could (barely) give more, you are absolutely correct. Probably time for me and people like me to put their money where their mouth is. I will always ride the Budgie brand. ---
**Author:** ![CommanderKeen](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/commanderkeen/32/11277_2.png) [@CommanderKeen](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/CommanderKeen)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/8 "2024-01-27T08:51:33Z")
josh has published another blog post with lots of interesting budgie wayland information > **[State of the Budgie: 2023 In Review and Goals for 2024](https://buddiesofbudgie.org/blog/state-of-the-budgie-2023)** > > 2023 was an amazing year for Budgie Desktop and our organization. Time to dive into our State of the Budgie to recap our efforts in 2023 and the goals for 2024. ---
**Author:** ![CommanderKeen](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/commanderkeen/32/11277_2.png) [@CommanderKeen](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/CommanderKeen)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/9 "2024-01-28T15:40:13Z")
> **[Budgie 10.9 Released](https://buddiesofbudgie.org/blog/budgie-10-9-released)** > > Budgie 10.9 is a brand new release series for Budgie Desktop, introducing a redesigned Bluetooth applet, early porting efforts towards supporting Wayland, and adopting budgie-session for session management. ---
**Author:** ![proficiency](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/proficiency/32/94343_2.png) [@proficiency](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/proficiency)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/10 "2024-02-01T06:58:52Z")
With this pace of development, Budgie will entirely GNOME free by 2040! thank god, I Say. 🙂 Also a lot of promising news about Wayland, hopefully the next time GNOME team trying to make a push to remove X11 from GNOME (not-budgie) implementations, Joshua Strobl would not be a party pooper and stop any progression efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/mohamad20zx/32/80199_2.png) [@Mohamad20ZX](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Mohamad20ZX)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/11 "2025-04-12T15:06:59Z")
Yeah I Hope it’s actually becoming more useful soon this year ---
**Author:** ![RodeoGoat](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RodeoGoat](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/RodeoGoat)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/12 "2025-06-03T17:57:31Z")
Bump. I want to keep this going. Joshua Strobl hasn’t given an update in a while. I’m an accountant but willing to learn whatever to get Budgie to Qt. I’ll contribute. Show me where to go ---
**Author:** ![Svartis](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/svartis/32/108386_2.png) [@Svartis](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/Svartis)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/13 "2025-06-03T18:02:21Z")
Ubuntu Budgie launched a testing repo a few weeks ago. > **[25.04 & 25.10 wayland testing - are you brave enough?](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-25-10-wayland-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7818)** > > Unlike previous testing calls - we are now looking for experienced testers who want to help the both the UB and BuddiesOfBudgie teams with early testing of our Wayland offering. This should NOT be used who want a stable system There are now two... ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/whens-budgie-are-going-to-support-wayland/49159/14 "2025-06-03T18:04:10Z")
> [@RodeoGoat](#): > > Show me where to go > **[JoshStrobl - Overview](https://github.com/JoshStrobl)** > > Open source developer. 🐧 BDFL / Lead of @BuddiesOfBudgie. - JoshStrobl