Yeah, but do they use them more than they use their mobile devices?
They may in your city/country, but it’s not the case in mine.
This was not what I addressed. I addressed the claim that
And this is not true from my point of view.
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This OS will be used mostly by 40+ years old people , where I live, I barely see anyone young working in a comfortable office job.
@Cphusion I think I have updated to the latest release from the software manager.
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I don’t really see your point. I said that only because computers are such a large part of our lives now that I believe we should teach people early on how to do basic things. Even in the past, I don’t believe most people were computer savvy. Most people would have went to a computer repair shop and ask help there. Not being computer savvy doesn’t mean anything.
Also, I think you maybe clicked reply on the wrong member’s name?
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I am confused. What do you mean?
It’s nothing. I probably just misread your tone. 
I wasn’t angry or something similar when replying to Canoe. I was stating my confusion and opinion of what I read from him calmly. Usually, if I’m angry or pissed off, my language will get more colorful, within the limits of the forum rules.
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I think it’s maybe me knowing that made me misread what you actually said.
It’s all good.
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I remember reading somewhere that with Arch is generally not a good idea to use the graphical software manager to update since you don’t see the information that pacman displays, for example the manual interventions that need to be done sometimes.
Indeed. packagekit-qt6 is the package for enabling GUI applications like KDE’s Discover or GNOME’s App Center to do their job. The problem is that Arch Linux doesn’t really bode well with GUI apps at the moment, simply because the user is expected to read the output of pacman and updates are push more or less as is, with very little testing, if any at all, as far as I know.
Also, PackageKit seems to be disliked because it is a mess or something. I don’t know about that.
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You might also look into Alma linux or Rocky.
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The best distro for an office workstation is the one that works for you. 
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My biggest issue with threads like these is they never take into account the different ways “USER” will use the computer. Everyone gives advice based on a work flow that they incorporated without understanding the “USERS” work flow and needs.
To be honest this is one of those questions that can only be answered by the end user. At the end of the day they know what is best for them and not me.
I think your asking the wrong people you need to ask the clients their needs and learn their work flow this is the only way you can really help them. NO matter how good something is if it doesn’t go with your work flow then its not the tool you need.
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That’s a stark difference then to some other countries, where it’s a tablet/chromebook and mobile by default.
I read your previous message as well and I do agree overall. At least here in my country and from what I have observed. I don’t really see as many younger people with laptops or desktops as before, and a lot use tablets now instead, I even see babies or toddlers in prams or outside or prams glued to tablets or phones. There are younger members of my family (Not my children, I don’t have any yet) around 11 years old, and never had a Desktop or laptop ever and only tablets or phones, and when I was 6 years I was using desktop PCs. And working in IT I can definitely see the next generations being a bit more of a challenge, people I help currently know things like hostname etc, but younger people don’t know what the start button is etc which can make instructions or asking for information in a support ticket a pain.
They know tablets and mobile interfaces and doing things through Apps. But in a laptop or PC they don’t know how to manage them or install programs as they are used to app stores on a tablet. Funnily enough though this is closer to how Linux works, and there is hope this would make Linux more appealing to Windows, if Linux can sort out the many repositories and package types out there, or there can be one Linux repository but ditros can install however they want from the one repository.
Children and teenagers are not hopeless (I don’t mean you implied or said this), anyone can learn, I agree their proficiency in PCs is less than all the children prior as the main tech device usage has changed similar to the way of the typewriter. When I was at school we were taught using computers but we also used them a lot at home, while now children only get what they have from school which is minimal.
And I already knew more than a lot of kids with computers on average when I was at school as I was using my Brothers PC (Windows XP) when I was 6 in 2004 and he taught me basic security, usage, and not downloading anything without him knowing and showed me the control panel, factory reset and many other things, and this stuck with me all this time (And he probably didn’t want me breaking his PC unknowingly or through curiosity) and my brother came from using Commadore 64 and Atari so he knew a bunch anyway.
There’s definitely a lot of knowledge that used to come with ‘using a computer’ that has been abstracted away by modern OS’s and the rise of mobile devices - there’s very little need to get under the hood anymore for an average user, so unless they have their own curiosity about why things work the way they do they aren’t going to go looking.
A lot of things that used to just be general knowledge simply aren’t anymore, although granted a lot of those things are also becoming largely irrelevant (if I never have to tell someone that plugging in a PS/2 mouse or keyboard after they’ve powered the machine up isn’t going to do anything then it will be too soon, you’d think USB would have been around long enough that this doesn’t come up anymore but it’s 2024 and they’re still floating around out there!) there are still plenty that really ought to be relevant until they invent the perfectly idiot-proof OS.
I would suggest checking out Zorin for your clients. It’s based on Ubuntu LTS, but designed with less technical users in mind.
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Somehow people started talking about general users. But I think general office use means some software that particular to the given business, web browsing and documents software. Luckily the business software they use here is compatible with Linux so the only other important thing is that the OS is kinda resilient to most errors that Windows handles.
I just made this thread to see if someone has some experience with office environments, where you just install and forget about the OS.
@sothis6881 thanks for the recommandation, Zorin has always flown under my radar for some reason, I will check it out.
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