What do you do with old hardware?

Yes, this is what I was trying to say.

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Makes sense since they don’t want to bother with parts or installing OS, but I don’t see why they would insist on Windows. Slap them Linux Mint XFCE or other lightweight GUI driven distro and perhaps they will love it.
Also Win10 can be used without license, this is how I do on my PC. Install and forget :grin:

Yeah, it’s like when you buy tickets for cinema, and the film really sucks, but you endure it, since you’ve paid for it.

In reality, you paid to have a bad time. Leaving the cinema would make more sense – even though you’ve spend money, it cost you less in total because at least you were doing something better.

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I ALWAYS try to sell everything, even if it’s $20-100. I never ever want to be the final owner of any electronic I own.

I LOVE buying broken things for almost nothing, fixing and selling for profits. But I try exceptionally hard to always sell off so at least one more consumer can use my old stuff, almost none of it had I bought new in the first place.

My current 2 laptops I plan on using for a very long time to come. They’ve both been built heavily enough, they should be relevant for a long time to come.

Just today, I sold my iPhone 11 which I’d bought from my daughter, and switched back to my even much older 6s, that was bought refurbished, way back then.

May I ask why not the opposite? There should be a hidden wisdom at least from your point of view.

No wisdom at all, only personal preferences for the time being. The old, small phone just fit my needs, and I didn’t like the newer one so much to keep it (and not trade it back for cash).
When it comes to photography and such, I still prefer my Lumix bridge camera with super-zoom to any smartphone.

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Basically 6s + cash > iPhone 11. Totally understandable and a sensible approach to new& shiny vs actual needs. Did you swap the battery on the 6s? Also iOS 16 will not support 6s, will this affect you (no idea if not having the latest iOS means anything, do apps continue to work?).

The battery still has 89% capacity, so no need to change it. The battery on the 11 model had even less than that one. With the new OS, will see what happens to apps. Many will continue to work without any update, I’m sure, as it has been like that in the past with the 4s, at least for a few years for most apps. The iOS-apps do continue to function just like they do on older MacOS versions. Some of them may loose some (or all their) functionality over time, as Apple shifts their intergration architecture to newer services they offer, mostly aimed at their income-flow.

I see… I can tell you are sort of pro when it comes to photography as you are using this camera.
I had/have this hobby of photography since I was a kid.
Nice hobby shows you have a taste and feelings.

Don’t we all?

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Sure, I mean you have higher than the average.

You are, that’s one of the best and most upgradeable units in the precision line.

AFAIK it can accept as high as pascal GPUs with the IPS panel upgrade and Maxwell without.

I was using an m6600 for a while till recently the keyboard connector broke during maintenance so now not very useful as a laptop. I spent a week and 300$ just to get the best display it supported I loved that machine so much. In total with upgrades was about 700$ which it performed in that range. Too bad MXM is dead

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I’m afraid I tend to keep it, for varying reasons…

  1. Software libraries that don’t run on new stuff (readily). This explains my Commodore 128D (runs C64 cleanly, as well as C128 stuff, and things I created myself). I also retain 2 Amiga systems, one on floppy, one with a 68030 and a hard drive.

  2. Some old systems have things on their drives that I will (sure) go back and retrieve as soon as I get the system working again!

  3. Some older systems were kept for ‘fall-back’ in case of difficulties with the new one. As I build my own (since about 1998) that was thought to be a possibility. hasn’t happened yet, though. Except perhaps for a few hours while I research the ‘fix’.

  4. I even have a system with Windows on it (it was inherited that way). Add Arch (the Arch way) because it was so easy to do on an MBR setup. The only task I found for it since, though, was to run a proprietary utility to reprogram a wireless keyboard…

  5. Sometimes, the excuse turns out to be a second life for the system in question. A previous desktop (Intel-based - generally a mistake if not gaming) has been returned to service as a mirror server - for EndeavourOS and the chaotic-aur. Still better than recycling…

  6. The rest of the old systems(!) around I keep telling myself they will be a source of parts for the ones that have files I wouldn’t mind recovering. I have no idea why I believe me - it isn’t experience talking! :grin:

Any other “good” reasons from you guys?

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I ended up with (ok… I actually sought out and bought) a couple of ex-lease desktop PCs which I have turned into my homelab. I have one old PC running TrueNAS with a 5-bay drive cage attached to it for my storage needs and the other is a Proxmox hypervisor running a bunch of VMs doing various things.

Old PCs and equipment are a nice and relatively inexpensive way to do cool things with PCs that may have otherwise been chucked out. In the process I’ve learned a lot…

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Why don’t emulators work? Old hardware may break in the future and I would be prepared for that.

I am not generally a fan of keeping old hardware around any more. I usually get rid of it one way or another. I used to have a huge collection of old unix workstations and tons of other obscure hardware. One day I decided to get rid of it all.

The one thing I have been saving for years is a Windows 98 PC for DOS/Early Windows gaming. If emulation ever catches up I would potentially get rid of it.(But maybe not since I am somewhat attached to those old components)

None of the emulators I have seen so far will do any of read 880K floppies, or read and execute C64 cartidges, or run at 68030 speeds and capabilities. Most of the Amiga ones are for A500’s, which I never had (A1000, A2500/030).

Plus, I have over 1100 games for the Amiga, and currently no way to move them over from floppy other than using an Amiga MS-DOS emulator file system to copy them one at a time… I may not live that long! (even if I can find a working floppy drive for my Linux boxes!)

Not exactly what you were asking, but did you ever check-out this? 4,545 games ready for download…

I was aware of its existence (sort of) - but I had intended to use the ‘legit’ ones I own first, THEN fill in the blanks with illegit ones I own. Didn’t check in to the details of abandonware - or how the law reads here in Canada - the copyright laws have become completely ridiculous over the last number of years…

I guess I’ll have to try an emulator or 2 now to see how the speed is!
Lemmings again! :grin:

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