If you want AI ,I think Fedora is using it.
Exactly! I never liked the idea of one-click âcleaners.â Even the ones with configurations to select.
From A Complete Idiotâs Guide To Endeavour OS Maintenance / Update / Upgrade, Iâve created a personalized âcheat sheetâ I use regularly or whenever I feel itâs necessary.
EndeavourOS Maintenance / Update / Upgrade
[Frequency: Every 1-2 months, or user discretion]UPDATE SYSTEM:
[Frequency: Daily, Weekly, or user discretion]
yayUPDATE ARCH MIRRORS:
reflector --protocol https --verbose --latest 25 --sort rate | sudo tee /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlistATER UPDATING ARCH MIRRORLIST, UPDATE SYSTEM:
yay -SyyuUPDATE EOS MIRRORS:
eos-rankmirrors --verboseATER UPDATING EOS MIRRORLIST, UPDATE SYSTEM:
yay -SyyuCLEAN JOURNAL:
sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=4weeksCLEAN CACHE (All Packages):
paccache -rCLEAN CACHE (Uninstalled Packages):
paccache -ruk0REMOVE ORPHANS:
yay -Yc
Perhaps I expressed myself incorrectly. If so, sorry for that.
I have joined this discussion because I have already had negative experiences with bleachbit. It sounds better this way. Sorry, I am not a native English speaker
At some point, I tried to clean the system on a Debian system with bleachbit. As I said, I completely messed it up. Sure, I ran it as root
That was definitely a wonderful learning experience
I only use the commands listed above and have had no problems since the installation
I am very sorry about that, but I can no longer reproduce it. Itâs been a while
I have personally read of a number of tragic tales caused by BleachBit. I donât remember the details either.
I am pretty sure that it has been about misconfiguration in those tragic tales.
The non tragic tales are the one that remain untold. Like mine
I just think its important for people to understand that Linux is NOT WINDOWS. The tools needed for Windows are not necessary on Linux. First Learn to use The OS. So many users come to Linux from Windows thinking they need to manage it just like Windows you donât. Learning to do things manually first allows you to learn how to fix issue when Third Party Apps FAIL.
To add:
Or to know enough to realize the third party apps broke your system, and to not blame the distro for it.
What about the user who installed the third party app, ran it (apparently not having much of a clue about what they were doing) and clicked the button?
Itâs always easier to put the blame somewhere else. Just sayinâ
No Amount of help can prevent STUPID.
On that we are totally agreed
And itâs always gonna happen (to some).
Using Bleachbit, as your user, you may harm the functioning of your desktop and applications, if you âinadvertentlyâ remove some config files and folders under your home directory. But this shouldnât be the end of the world if you have working backups of those configs. I think if so happens, you can recover, more or less the state of the desktop to what it was before you ran the program.
If you sudo it and run, like some people who are prone to run GUI apps as root, then the consequences may be catastrophic.
My point is that the ultimate responsible is neither the app nor the OS but the user.
The other day we had a user asking to be saved by a warning in the terminal if they so happen to put in sudo rm -rf /*
. A command-line user
Like that could happenâŚ
But realistically, even though I am always sober, sometimes we do stupid things even those of us that really really do know better (because we did them many years ago in our own learning curves).
As mentioned earlier, I still have occasional moments of DD insanity
Dangerous commands like this should be aliased to something else. So even if a Hacker got on your system it wouldnât harm it if they run it. (Well as long as they run it with out command) This also helps in those moments of âLess Paying Attention to Detailâ occur on us.
I do not use any cleaners on Arch Linux. I run pacman -Scc to clean out the package cache, and that is it. I do not install software I do not use, I donât experiment with packages, and I donât game. My cache files do not grow unexpectedly, my journal files do not grow unexpectedly, I never check for orphans, I deal with pacnew files when they arise, and my system stays very consistent without any effort. I guess my only recommendation would be to never use Bleachbit on Arch, it can easily cause more problems then it ever solves (and it never solves a problem).
I guess, if I were to make any recommendation, the only one would be: educate yourself, to the best of your ability, about the system you are using, be it Arch or something else and by extension, educate yourself about the tools you are using, be it command line or GUI, from whatever party on whatever system. You are the sole arbiter of what suits you, and ultimately the sole responsible of how you run your system.
After ccleaner i had to reinstall my entire system. That was a hard lesson never to use it ever again!
Itâs windows for you. . . .
Rich;)
I have this at work on my Windows system, itâs called an IT department.
As Iâve stated in my earliest post. . . . Iâve tried everything for cleaning. . . . In the 5 years Iâve been using EndeavourOS, Iâve never had a problem from any cleaner . i.e. Bleachbit, Stacer, Sweeper and itâs best to use the command line and quickest method available. yay -Scc for cache files downloaded cleans them up. . . paru -c cleans up isolated leftovers that yay -Scc doesnât get. I guess my point is use what works best for you. I donât mind experimenting with software in the AUR repositories such as Stacer or Octopi for package installation and cleanup. Pacseek works very well for this task also. . . but nothing beats yay -Syu for everything.
Rich;)