# Visudo\_wheelgroup or drop-in file **URL:** \ **Category:** Newbie\ **Created:** [April 28, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513 "2024-04-28T11:02:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/1 "2024-04-28T11:02:52Z")
Hi, not very happy about this, lol just having a bad day. Just spent nearly 2hrs just trying to be able to allow my user to be able to use sudo without a password. Still haven’t been able to do it. I’ve edited visudo exported $EDITOR=vim my user is in groups sys rfkill wheel slim I un-commented the wheel group without password rebooted few times Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers. ```auto 103 ## User privilege specification 104 ## 105 root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 106 107 ## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command 108 # %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 109 110 ## Same thing without a password 111 %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL 112 [slim@AnNasrun ~]$ groups slim sys wheel rfkill slim ``` Apologies if this is just some basic mistake. I’ve tried and can’t work it out. ---
**Author:** ![r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/r0ckhopper/32/51768_2.png) [@r0ckhopper](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/r0ckhopper)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/2 "2024-04-28T11:07:21Z")
> [@muj](#): > > Just spent nearly 2hrs just trying to be able to allow my user to be able to use sudo without a password Why!?!! ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:09am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/3 "2024-04-28T11:09:33Z")
lol Why what? Why allow my user to do that? Because it should be an easy change and I’m lazy and wanted to do it for a period of time and then change it back. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/4 "2024-04-28T11:23:39Z")
```auto ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ``` As the last line when you `sudo visudo` e.g. ```auto xircon ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ``` ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/5 "2024-04-28T11:26:00Z")
I’m sorry I should have said I did try that first. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/6 "2024-04-28T11:26:33Z")
It works, you may need to log off/on. ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/7 "2024-04-28T11:27:20Z")
Okay, I’ll try it again and copy/paste what Ive done be back after rebooting. Thanks xircon ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/8 "2024-04-28T11:30:02Z")
```auto ## sudoers file. ## ## This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. ## Failure to use 'visudo' may result in syntax or file permission errors ## that prevent sudo from running. ## ## See the sudoers man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file. ## ## ## Host alias specification ## ## Groups of machines. These may include host names (optionally with wildcards), ## IP addresses, network numbers or netgroups. # Host_Alias WEBSERVERS = www1, www2, www3 ## ## User alias specification ## ## Groups of users. These may consist of user names, uids, Unix groups, ## or netgroups. # User_Alias ADMINS = millert, dowdy, mikef ## ## Cmnd alias specification ## ## Groups of commands. Often used to group related commands together. # Cmnd_Alias PROCESSES = /usr/bin/nice, /bin/kill, /usr/bin/renice, \ # /usr/bin/pkill, /usr/bin/top # # Cmnd_Alias REBOOT = /sbin/halt, /sbin/reboot, /sbin/poweroff # # Cmnd_Alias DEBUGGERS = /usr/bin/gdb, /usr/bin/lldb, /usr/bin/strace, \ # /usr/bin/truss, /usr/bin/bpftrace, \ # /usr/bin/dtrace, /usr/bin/dtruss # # Cmnd_Alias PKGMAN = /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/dpkg, /usr/bin/rpm, \ # /usr/bin/yum, /usr/bin/dnf, /usr/bin/zypper, \ # /usr/bin/pacman ## ## Defaults specification ## ## You may wish to keep some of the following environment variables ## when running commands via sudo. ## ## Locale settings # Defaults env_keep += "LANG LANGUAGE LINGUAS LC_* _XKB_CHARSET" ## ## Run X applications through sudo; HOME is used to find the ## .Xauthority file. Note that other programs use HOME to find ## configuration files and this may lead to privilege escalation! # Defaults env_keep += "HOME" ## ## X11 resource path settings # Defaults env_keep += "XAPPLRESDIR XFILESEARCHPATH XUSERFILESEARCHPATH" ## ## Desktop path settings # Defaults env_keep += "QTDIR KDEDIR" ## ## Allow sudo-run commands to inherit the callers' ConsoleKit session # Defaults env_keep += "XDG_SESSION_COOKIE" ## ## Uncomment to enable special input methods. Care should be taken as ## this may allow users to subvert the command being run via sudo. # Defaults env_keep += "XMODIFIERS GTK_IM_MODULE QT_IM_MODULE QT_IM_SWITCHER" ## ## Uncomment to use a hard-coded PATH instead of the user's to find commands # Defaults secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" ## ## Uncomment to restore the historic behavior where a command is run in ## the user's own terminal. # Defaults !use_pty ## ## Uncomment to send mail if the user does not enter the correct password. # Defaults mail_badpass ## ## Uncomment to enable logging of a command's output, except for ## sudoreplay and reboot. Use sudoreplay to play back logged sessions. ## Sudo will create up to 2,176,782,336 I/O logs before recycling them. ## Set maxseq to a smaller number if you don't have unlimited disk space. # Defaults log_output # Defaults!/usr/bin/sudoreplay !log_output # Defaults!/usr/local/bin/sudoreplay !log_output # Defaults!REBOOT !log_output # Defaults maxseq = 1000 ## ## Uncomment to disable intercept and log_subcmds for debuggers and ## tracers. Otherwise, anything that uses ptrace(2) will be unable ## to run under sudo if intercept_type is set to "trace". # Defaults!DEBUGGERS !intercept, !log_subcmds ## ## Uncomment to disable intercept and log_subcmds for package managers. ## Some package scripts run a huge number of commands, which is made ## slower by these options and also can clutter up the logs. # Defaults!PKGMAN !intercept, !log_subcmds ## ## Runas alias specification ## ## ## User privilege specification ## root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command # %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ## Same thing without a password # %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ## Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to execute any command # %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ## Uncomment to allow any user to run sudo if they know the password ## of the user they are running the command as (root by default). # Defaults targetpw # Ask for the password of the target user # ALL ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # WARNING: only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw' ## Read drop-in files from /etc/sudoers.d @includedir /etc/sudoers.d xircon ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ``` This is the full file (working here, haven’t entered a sudo password since 1999 😃 ). ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/9 "2024-04-28T11:36:19Z")
> [@xircon](#): > > This is the full file (working here, haven’t entered a sudo password since 1999 😃 ). hahaha nice. it’s still asking me ```auto [slim@AnNasrun ~]$ sudo ls [sudo] password for slim: 97 98 ## 99 ## Runas alias specification 100 ## 101 102 ## 103 ## User privilege specification 104 ## 105 root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 106 107 ## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command 108 # %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 109 110 ## Same thing without a password 111 %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL 112 slim ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL 113 114 ## Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to execute any command 115 # %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL 116 117 ## Uncomment to allow any user to run sudo if they know the password 118 ## of the user they are running the command as (root by default). ``` maybe i need to put my user at the bottom like yours? but it should work the way i’ve done it right? ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/10 "2024-04-28T11:43:33Z")
No - has to be last line of file, as I said above. ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/11 "2024-04-28T11:44:50Z")
lol I swear I’m sure I’ve done it like that before. hold up tho I’m just writing something to add here ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/12 "2024-04-28T11:45:51Z")
lol This will sound stupid to lol everyone I think but… I’m going to reinstall vanilla Arch. It’s best Imo that I have less features and only get features when I’ve learnt about them and configured them so I understand them. I haven’t come across a better Linux community than here at EnOS so I really hope that I’ll still be welcome here even though I’ll be running vanilla Arch. ---
**Author:** ![xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/xircon/32/9124_2.png) [@xircon](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/xircon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/13 "2024-04-28T11:47:02Z")
Endeavour is pretty much vanilla arch, it just has an installer and some themes, that is it. ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/14 "2024-04-28T11:54:20Z")
lol, yeah lol but not to someone like me. you should see an earlier post of mine about how I was stuck and thought the computer was broke lol coz I was accidentally enabling this feature called blur lock. Took me ridiculous amounts of time to work out I just needed to not do it lol or comment it out. lol damn man. On my Arch install honestly I had no issues really. Of course it didn’t look as nice, but I could search for files was it with rofi, i had a terminal file manager, had vim setup with plugins with vim.plug manager. had alacritty themed and customised as i wanted had setup picom and dunst made all dark theme and much more stuff can’t remember. yeah just going to do that and then at least I know what it should be and hopefully can troubleshoot better. lol when I first came on here my gosh I spent hours thinking why cant I run `sudo mkinitcpio -P` I installed mkinitcpio reinstalled kernels different kernels, reinstalled lol the whole os about 3-4 times again did more can’t even think about it. Let me say to anyone reading this… THIS IS JUST MY STUPIDITY. Nothing to do with EnOS. ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/15 "2024-04-28T14:37:48Z")
> [@xircon](#): > > Endeavour is pretty much vanilla arch, **it just has an installer and some themes, that is it**. I have to disagree. The are plenty more Endeavour-specific things included besides _just the installer and some themes._ The Welcome app alone shows plenty of Endeavour-specific helpers not included in a vanilla Arch install. Plus EOS has `rebuild-detector` installed by default (vanilla Arch does not), which was valuable with the recent Python update. Just one of the many examples would be the EndeavourOS Quickstart Installer. ![Screenshot from 2024-04-28 09-34-48](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/a/9afea54034c03dcd2f207e79381ae621a7dee4fa.png) ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/16 "2024-04-28T14:44:55Z")
lol yep for sure and that is because the devs have put in a lot of effort. Moved from mkinitcpio to dracut on i3: dunst, pimoc, probably lxappearance, environment variables, loads of things all over the place. lol and much more probably that I don’t have a clue about. ---
**Author:** ![UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unclespellbinder/32/127055_2.png) [@UncleSpellbinder](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/UncleSpellbinder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/17 "2024-04-28T14:50:11Z")
> [@muj](#): > > and that is because the devs have put in a lot of effort. 100% accurate. The EOS dev team may be small compared to other distros, but the work they do to provide a fantastic OS for the end-user is phenomenal. They all have day jobs and a life outside the world of Linux. They do fantastic work to keep EndeavourOS the amazing distro that it is. ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/18 "2024-04-28T14:56:16Z")
It sounds like you have already moved on but the reason is that sudo uses drop-ins now. The drop ins override sudoers.conf. That way you never have to edit sudoers.conf directly. We include a drop-in that you needed to edit or remove. ---
**Author:** ![muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/muj/32/94382_2.png) [@muj](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/muj)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/19 "2024-04-28T14:57:09Z")
Big Hello @dalto yeah that’s what I mean. Too many things changed for me. I’m more than happy to spend lol days troubleshooting (coz I’m not too bright) but I don’t like to do it when I’ve already done it. Yeah, I’m back on Arch. wasn’t difficult as had backed up my configs and package list. Just hope I can stay on this forum though. ---
**Author:** ![dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/dalto/32/5577_2.png) [@dalto](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/dalto)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513/20 "2024-04-28T15:38:01Z")
> [@muj](#): > > yeah that’s what I mean. Too many things changed for me. I guess my point is that it changed everywhere, not just on EOS. `sudo` itself added that functionality. Even for your manual changes it is better to use drop-ins at this point. > [@muj](#): > > Just hope I can stay on this forum though. You are welcome to continue to be part of this forum even if you are currently using a different distro. However, if you have technical questions, please mention that you are using Arch so we can provide better answers. [Next page](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/visudo-wheelgroup-or-drop-in-file/54513.md?page=2)