# Unable to upgrade the system **URL:** \ **Category:** EndeavourOS installation\ **Created:** [November 30, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435 "2019-11-30T07:57:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/1 "2019-11-30T07:57:17Z")
_Note I am using this on VirtualBox_ I have a bit of an old ISO of EndeavourOS. After install it on VirtualBox, I can’t seem to upgrade the system. ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/00fda6de1e826423be30665431ec63c01945ce00.png) So I get this message, so I do replace this package. But then i get this error message. ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/86b54fc7d47923f133712ebc56a7fe4230dbe8a0.png) I tried to keep the orginal package when I redo the process. Then I get this ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f55d9fdeda0979205a2987a77cecf4306955e24d.png) Either option I chose it gives me this. ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/14c7e495b220e8ab9b1e717939635fa60078c536.png) ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/2 "2019-11-30T08:11:27Z")
Just remove Kalu. It is utterly broken with pacman 5.2. Open a terminal: 1. `sudo pacman -Rcs kalu` 2. `sudo pacman -Syyu` 3. `sudo pacman install eos-update-notifier` Close your terminal and reboot. The last line will install an update notifier which is working better than kalu. ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/3 "2019-11-30T11:50:32Z")
Thanks mate for your help 🙂 > [@FredBezies](#): > > The last line will install an update notifier which is working better than kalu. What is kalu though? ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/4 "2019-11-30T11:51:18Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > Thanks mate for your help 🙂 > > > [@FredBezies](#): > > > > The last line will install an update notifier which is working better than kalu. > > What is kalu though? Kalu is a graphical wrapper for pacman, like Pamac (on Manjaro). But it is not in a good shape with pacman 5.2. And you’re welcome for the help 😉 ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/5 "2019-12-01T00:15:55Z")
> [@FredBezies](#): > > Kalu is a graphical wrapper for pacman, like Pamac (on Manjaro). But it is not in a good shape with pacman 5.2. But then when I am just using the terminal (and not the graphical UI) to do updates via pacman how come it doesn’t work and it gives the same error? > [@FredBezies](#): > > And you’re welcome for the help 😉 👍 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/6 "2019-12-01T10:16:04Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > But then when I am just using the terminal (and not the graphical UI) to do updates via pacman how come it doesn’t work and it gives the same error? I would be wondering why if it _didn’t_ give the same error… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/7 "2019-12-01T10:18:02Z")
You have to remove kalu first. And which error, now? ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/8 "2019-12-01T11:14:28Z")
Yes I already removed it and it works fine, my question is why can’t anything be installed if kalu is installed? ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/10 "2019-12-01T11:28:09Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > Yes I already removed it and it works fine, my question is why can’t anything be installed if kalu is installed? Because pacman is the heart of Archlinux. You have to update it first. It is as simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/11 "2019-12-01T11:42:18Z")
@manuel, @FredBezies Forgive me for no understanding this. I am new to Linux as a whole. > [@FredBezies](#): > > Kalu is a graphical wrapper for pacman I understand this is what you are referring to this. ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/48b4ef020d7e731cd5b956086e631d8aeac1f78d.png) so I understand if it does not work with pacman at all. But if I am using just terminal, and I am using pacman, I am not at all using kalu, right? I am only using the terminal, so how come pacman refuses to update anything, why can’t it just avoid dealing with kalu? ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/12 "2019-12-01T12:25:28Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > @manuel, @FredBezies > > Forgive me for no understanding this. I am new to Linux as a whole. > > > [@FredBezies](#): > > > > Kalu is a graphical wrapper for pacman > > I understand this is what you are referring to this. > ![image](https://forum.endeavouros.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/48b4ef020d7e731cd5b956086e631d8aeac1f78d.png) > > so I understand if it does not work with pacman at all. > > But if I am using just terminal, and I am using pacman, I am not at all using kalu, right? I am only using the terminal, so how come pacman refuses to update anything, why can’t it just avoid dealing with kalu? Kalu dependencies on a previous version of pacman blocked everything. When you enter: `sudo pacman -Syyu` it checks for pacman upgrade first. Only pacman can update itself. After this, pacman processes all upgrades, working on dependencies. 99% of the time, all will go well. ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/13 "2019-12-01T12:28:54Z")
> [@FredBezies](#): > > Kalu dependencies on a previous version of pacman blocked everything. Ahh I see, thanks for clearing that up for me 🙂 > [@FredBezies](#): > > After this, pacman processes all upgrades, working on dependencies. 99% of the time, all will go well. I see. ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/14 "2019-12-01T13:10:47Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > why can’t anything be installed if kalu is installed? That’s by design of Arch. Install all, or nothing if one package fails. ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/15 "2019-12-01T23:09:28Z")
> [@manuel](#): > > That’s by design of Arch. Install all, or nothing if one package fails. Is Arch designed like this so that broken packages that contain broken dependencies don’t affect and break other packages? ---
**Author:** ![manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/manuel/32/396_2.png) [@manuel](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/manuel)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/16 "2019-12-02T06:36:29Z")
If I understand your question right, yes. Arch updates is (to my knowledge) designed so that all updates must pass all checks before any update takes place. The reasoning behind this is to leave system in a consistent state by not making partial updates, only full updates. ---
**Author:** ![unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/unix_lover/32/5462_2.png) [@unix\_lover](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/unix_lover)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/17 "2019-12-02T10:45:57Z")
> [@FredBezies](#): > > sudo pacman -Rcs kalu Just trying to learn more about pacman, what does -Rcs mean? I know -R means to remove the package but what about cs? ---
**Author:** ![FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/user_avatar/forum.endeavouros.com/fredbezies/32/235_2.png) [@FredBezies](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/FredBezies)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/18 "2019-12-02T11:18:40Z")
Just look at this wiki page: [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta) ---
**Author:** ![axt](https://forum.endeavouros.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@axt](https://forum.endeavouros.com/u/axt)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/unable-to-upgrade-the-system/2435/19 "2019-12-02T12:12:10Z")
> [@unix\_lover](#): > > but what about cs? Do you know the help system? Usable in every terminal, in every tty, fast and w/o X or an internet connection: Short and for frequently used: `pacman --help` Manpage: `man pacman` And always look for yourself first, instead of simply asking basic questions. That must be purged kalu, has already been written several times. Also you can find out for yourself [what that is](https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=kalu).