With preinstalled Linux you have to like the distribution and/or the DE. This was not the case for me with Tuxedo, I just like an unmodified Gnome. That’s why I installed EndeavourOS and stopped using TuxedoOS.
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Thanks Tealk - they also offer Kubuntu which my wife uses as her daily driver. How was the hardware value for money?
I am very happy with the device, the Aura is now also only out as Gen2 with a stronger processor. The keyboard has a very nice typing feel and in general the notebook feels high quality.
The support is also always very helpful, even though I have reinstalled EndeavourOS.
I haven’t checked if you can get the hardware cheaper, but even if you can, I’m happy to support a Linux-based company.
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I think you are missing the point of my statement.
I wasn’t referring to the vendor contributing money to FOSS projects. I was thinking about Linux much more broadly. A commercial vendor selling Linux laptops for a profit, even if they do nothing else contributes to the Linux ecosystem by being there to supply laptops with Linux pre-installed.
System76 in particular, additionally contributes PopOS! to the community. Of course their motivations are driven by profit but the reality is that a significant portion of the code that is in the major Linux FOSS projects come from for-profit companies. FOSS != Altruism.
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To reinforce your point. Plus much more, they provide one on one support, online tutorials and also started building Linux compatible components like their keyboards. Also they provided upstream software patches including Ubuntu and gnome project, and support core boot, here for example:
https://blog.system76.com/post/667593198841069568/open-up-contributions-and-collaborations
To my understanding the founder and it’s team are truly passionate about Linux, that is rare. It also show with their attention to detail and creativity surrounding Linux nerdness. That includes cool stickers, wallpapers, etc. So goes beyond hardware or just slapping a distro on a computer for sure.
Even though they provide pop OS, it says they would take support ticket even with other Linux distro if they can.
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I bought a desktop box fro my son, ‘twas - cheaper by £100 without windows - so at least in good ol’ blighty we pay to have cr*p installed on out boxes 
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Unfortunately. Microsoft managed to have it made illegal to sell a system without an OS - meaning in the US (and Canada bent over nicely too) - so we have to build our own to avoid the ‘tax’. yues, I have been building my own since 1996…(coincidence?)
the main pro is that the delivered hardware is proven with linux. that’s the reason why i will purchase my next pc from a seller who sells a pc with linux preconfigured.
my acer-gaming laptop instead was pain in the ass to get it running with linux, never again. if i would monetarize all the hours i had to invest till it was running… noway and tuxedo is in the same price-range as other big-players as dell, hp etc… if you’re looking for a all-in-one-package than it’s a good choice. if you want to spare some money and you’re willing to get some more grey-hairs, yes than there are cheaper ones 
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Some of use grey-hairs would happily get some more of them - it’s tearing it out that’s a problem! 
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This !!!
My next laptop might be from system76. Not because of popOS, which I would not run, but because I know that it is compatible with Linux.
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Is the preference for System76 because it’s based in the US (whereas Tuxedo or Slimbook are EU) or because of something else?
the desktop-pc’s are really-nice and a pc of them is on my wishlist, because they too send to eu. if the $-€ exchange rate get’s attractive and this damned gpu-scalpers are no longer in the market. actually it’s a no go, gen-5-pci is coming, gpu-prices are stright through the roof and delivery-times are absurd. hopefully my board can stand min. a year longer.
No preference, really, it was just the first company that came to mind as an example. Although, they do have a couple of laptop models that I like, but I’ve currently got too many laptops (if that is really an issue).
Can’t go wrong with the right Lenovo product either. I like system76 a lot for what they are doing although i don’t have any of their hardware. But I’m closer to them as far as delivery and know a lot more about them than Tuxedo and Slimbook. Not opposed to trying them either. Right now i have no need for any computer hardware.
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Yes, some PCs and laptop products from non-Linux OEM vendors may not work properly with Linux kernel; mainly because some of their implementations of BIOS/UEFI don’t comply with standards out there.
But PCs and laptops with Linux shipped don’t necessarily work with Linux kernel. I have seen posts on the Manjaro forum about non-working Linux on Tuxedo and Pine64 products like ACPI bug or non-working OS.
Pretty much a copy-paste quote from codesardine of the Manjaro team, which I agree to some extent:
I have never seen any open source software that comes with warranty, I know that is what you and many desire but it just does not happen with any Linux hardware, usably they install your distro of choice as a convenience service but there is no support.
I believe system76 is one of the best Linux OEM vendors out of there, not because of their support of PopOS or Ubuntu, but because they use open source firmware and they push their Linux patch to work for their hardware to the Linux kernel upstream repository; this makes pretty much any Linux-based OS to work properly.
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The question arose in me, finding this forum thread. Is there a laptop pre-installed with EOS at all, or even a desktop computer like Manjaro or Ubuntu?
Tuxedo ships with Ubuntu preinstalled, and offers Manjaro pre-installed on some machines. I haven’t heard of any OEM shipping EndeavourOS pre-installed yet.
No, there aren’t, beside the “business deal” we have to make, I think the rolling release nature of the system is a nightmare for such companies to keep up with and give customer support for it. To be honest, I don’t blame them.
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Besides, it’s a very easy and quick install and anyone who is interested in EOS probably isn’t interested in the compromises a pre-configured installation would involve.
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Dell Latitude/Precision, Thinkpad L, T or P series would be good choices. In case of Dell, Linux (Ubuntu) costs something like 150$-200$ less in my country. Similar for Thinkpads which come with no OS (DOS).