Stutter in most games

Hello all! First I want to say that Endeavour is absolutely amazing. I have not used another 0s quite this Amazing in a long time. I have a question if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated! For some reason the majority of games on my system have terrible stuttering for many minutes after launching despite all shaders being cached and this issue does not exist on Fed0ra or Linux Mint. I have though it may be a kernel issue however as I am not so familiar with Arch as a base I would not even know where to begin with installing another Kernel. I had thought about going for the Zen2 kernel that garuda runs considering I did not have this issue there but I want to make sure that whatever I do I do it right. This issue from what I can remember is specifically with the system package for steam and I notice when closing games sometimes fossilize replay will shoot my cpu utilization up a ton and I have not observed this in the flatpak in other Distros. Thank you all in advance and I really appreciate it :slight_smile:

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Whats your hardware? You can use

inxi -FAZ --no-host | eos-sendlog

Is stuttering just after launching or does it persist thorough the gameplay?

It will stutter for up to 5 minutes and then resolve but comes back upon relaunching. Resident Evil 5 exhibited the worst symptoms being totally unplayable due to freezing and stuttering and in that game it does not resolve.

Make sure your running your games from the dGPU and not iGPU.

Can you post your hardware? You can this to get link inxi -FAZ --no-host | eos-sendlog

Too many variables to guess from before knowing if its laptop, desktop, amd, nvidia, etc.

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He has a Youtube channel which I follow. If I remember correctly he has an AMD gpu, just forgot which one.

In that case using wrong vulkan drivers might explain suttering especially if it happens on natively installed steam and not on flatpak version. Steam asks which one to use when installing, by default it suggests amdvlk which is not that great usually. Vulkan-radeon on average works best.

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I never checked if “lib32-vulkan-radeon” and “vulkan-radeon” are dependencies of Steam, but would guess they are optional.

Assuming you have AMD GPU, can you check if you have vulkan-radeon or amdvlk installed?

pacman -Qs amdvlk
pacman -Qs vulkan-radeon
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Bit over a year ago when I switched to team red I installed the wrong vulkan drivers (amdvlk) with steam and spent a few days wondering why gaming had such weird performance issues and bugs :grin: Switching to vulkan-radeon fixed those. Didn’t have knowledge of these back then, as past GPU’s were nvidia.

I did the opposite a few months ago, went from AMD to Nvidia for my gpu because of some weird kernel bug that was introduced somewhere near the beginning of the year after 4 months it still hadn’t been fixed and still isn’t reading through the issues that mention it. It annoyed me so much I switched I switch back to Nvidia, I have zero issues now.

Back on topic. I’m glad @N0Viewers found the EndeavourOS forums, welcome! :slight_smile:

I am currently on a different partition but I can send you my info. I have a Desktop, Ryzen 5 7600 CPU and an Rx7600 gpu with 8gb video memory. I have 32gb ddr5 @ 6400mhz and a 1tb samsung 990 pro nvme boot drive, kernel 6.14.9 arch 2 and I believe the most up to date mesa drive available in endeavour. Once I get back later today I will look into whatever other info you all need. Thank you for your help.

Hi! Yes you are correct, not sure why endeavour is the only distro I am having this issue in. Thank you so much for your support on the channel it means a lot to me. If I can get this weird performance issue under control then I would love to daily drive endeavour and make it the centerpiece of the channel. I have already convinced a handful of people to try it when asked what I would recommend and like me they love it. Thanks once again, hope to see you again in the stream and I hope you have a wonderful day/night :slight_smile:

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You bring up an interesting point, I had a sub on my youtube channel tell me that apparently steam can install a different version of the driver but previously when I had checked it seemed like I had the right one. The stutters are odd and I have used the most up to date mesa on other distros, the outlying factor seems like maybe something in the kernel disagrees with my hardward but I am not much of a tinkerer. Thank you all for the help, I look forward to hopefully getting this sorted out because I do not think I have ever had so much freedom in a Linux Distro as I do here. Everyone told me the community was amazing for endeavour and it has proven to be true! It is always nice to be part of something where people are genuinely trying to help and being kind.

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Yes later today I will check, thank you for the suggestion because this totally slipped my mind.

Earlier I had the same thought about potentially testing the flatpak to see if the issue persisted because I do not believe games outside of steam where having this issue. I love having my game icons on the desktop which is why I usually go system package for steam but lately I have been having issues and have been working with flatpaks more. Once I get a chance to test later today I will let you all know if the issue has been resolved!

My cpu has an igpu but I have it disabled in uefi. This issue only persists in the arch kernel and does not happen in fedora oddly enough. Will try some of the fixes listed in this thread later today to see if the stutters still happen. Thanks for the help.

It might also be worth to check which steam package you have installed, there are two.

multilib/steam 1.0.0.82-2 [installed]
    Valve's digital software delivery system
multilib/steam-native-runtime 1.0.0.75-4
    Native replacement for the Steam runtime using system libraries

The second one can cause incompatibility issues because it’s dependent on a bunch of other system packages, but in short it’s best to use the first one “steam” because that one comes bundled with it’s own steam provided libraries.